clojure-australia 2020-11-23

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I'm cheating, in that I'm contracting out to the company I worked for in the UK before moving out here.

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> Morning.. I woudnt mind working with clojure.. maybe we should start a project? Actually I'm working with a friend on a side-project that uses Clojure. Maybe you're interested in joining?

Oh right. Duolingo is in a different space (unless it has a "Converse with native speakers" feature now)

Cool, been using duo lingo for quite a while, and old friend and I thought of doing something similar.

Sure, what’s it all about?

It's a type of Language Learning Platform Similar to iTalki, HelloTalk, etc

No, just language learning with spaced repetition. It’s am interesting space.

Afternoon all. I hate azure. That’s my day summed up

The only one of the big 3 I don't hate. Purely down to not having used it mind you.

Would suggest not trying it. You’ll hate it faster than the others.

You’re using websockets in an app service? Azure decides to handle all the control frames itself and won’t close the connection properly

Just constant MITM crap that we keep stumbling on, and takes weeks to figure out what we’re doing wrong

oh yea, the company I work for spends I think $500k on Azure annually. When really we can, in theory, go with something like Linode and spend 1/10th

Also, we stay away from App services, worker roles etc. It's easy enough to just use plain VMs isn't it?

To a point, but I wanted decent CD without reinventing the wheel

Docker + CircleCI/Harness/GithubActions/etc + VM is not reinventing the wheel, is it?

The last part is, when the app service has automated deployment/replacement from a docker registry

Plus https wrapping and other things like that which were really fast to get off the ground

(Yes I know nginx exists, but this was still quicker than having to spend time on the infra as a solo dev)

Anyways, it’s not just limited to the app service. Almost everything in the azure ecosystem has some weird catch or thing it’s doing they don’t describe

> The last part is, when the app service has automated deployment/replacement from a docker registry Yea I suppose, if it just works

Yeah, there are a lot of pitfalls in Azure. For instance, some things you can change after creation, but other things, you can't

Have you tried other providers like AWS or Google Cloud?

We're moving to aws at the moment