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Hugh Powell00:11:31

I'm cheating, in that I'm contracting out to the company I worked for in the UK before moving out here.

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anonimitoraf03:11:32

> Morning.. I woudnt mind working with clojure.. maybe we should start a project? Actually I'm working with a friend on a side-project that uses Clojure. Maybe you're interested in joining?

justinmcp04:11:09

Sure, what’s it all about?

anonimitoraf05:11:11

It's a type of Language Learning Platform Similar to iTalki, HelloTalk, etc

justinmcp23:11:21

Cool, been using duo lingo for quite a while, and old friend and I thought of doing something similar.

anonimitoraf08:11:19

Oh right. Duolingo is in a different space (unless it has a "Converse with native speakers" feature now)

justinmcp04:12:37

No, just language learning with spaced repetition. It’s am interesting space.

lsenjov03:11:20

Afternoon all. I hate azure. That’s my day summed up

Hugh Powell04:11:29

The only one of the big 3 I don't hate. Purely down to not having used it mind you.

lsenjov05:11:21

Would suggest not trying it. You’ll hate it faster than the others.

lsenjov05:11:59

You’re using websockets in an app service? Azure decides to handle all the control frames itself and won’t close the connection properly

lsenjov05:11:48

Just constant MITM crap that we keep stumbling on, and takes weeks to figure out what we’re doing wrong

anonimitoraf05:11:33

oh yea, the company I work for spends I think $500k on Azure annually. When really we can, in theory, go with something like Linode and spend 1/10th

anonimitoraf05:11:15

Also, we stay away from App services, worker roles etc. It's easy enough to just use plain VMs isn't it?

lsenjov06:11:31

To a point, but I wanted decent CD without reinventing the wheel

anonimitoraf06:11:51

Docker + CircleCI/Harness/GithubActions/etc + VM is not reinventing the wheel, is it?

lsenjov06:11:40

The last part is, when the app service has automated deployment/replacement from a docker registry

lsenjov06:11:12

Plus https wrapping and other things like that which were really fast to get off the ground

lsenjov06:11:40

(Yes I know nginx exists, but this was still quicker than having to spend time on the infra as a solo dev)

lsenjov06:11:03

Anyways, it’s not just limited to the app service. Almost everything in the azure ecosystem has some weird catch or thing it’s doing they don’t describe

anonimitoraf06:11:15

> The last part is, when the app service has automated deployment/replacement from a docker registry Yea I suppose, if it just works

anonimitoraf06:11:45

Yeah, there are a lot of pitfalls in Azure. For instance, some things you can change after creation, but other things, you can't

anonimitoraf06:11:11

Have you tried other providers like AWS or Google Cloud?

lsenjov07:11:15

We're moving to aws at the moment