morning!

måning

o/

Morning

Just about

Lovely and Crispy in Surrey!

Morning

bright and frosty in Perthshire

Why did I think you were in Ireland @dharrigan?

I could be 🙂 Perhaps I'm just throwing out a random factoid 🙂

I could equally say "Quite wet in Sheffield today"

morning

I see what you did there :i_see_what_you_did_there_emoji:

Why doesn't this slack have /giphy support?

this is better

giphy doesn't give you a choice, so it could quite freqeuently be nsfw

where as with the /gifs hook, gives you choices for you to select the appropriate one.

it would be great if it was added to this slack

giphy has a shuffle button to choose different gifs before posting

I like that you can add captions to gif keyboard though

gif-keyboard has the same

you can select "more" and it'll present more choices

generaly we found with /gifhy, too often it would present something totally not related and potentially quite nsfw.

and clicking on shuffle each time was time consuming

> Why doesn't this slack have /giphy support? maybe because we are on cheapskates tier and they want to pressurize us to upgrade?

I really wish Slack would give out free licenses for open source/community projects

non-profits

You don't need paid slack for integrations iirc

Just need an admin to install/enable it

morning

I imagine it might seem a bit noisy if they did enable it 😂 I know I like a good gif throughout the day

There's a 3 integration limit iirc

There is a way to get a discounted rate, lemme ask around

Morn’

So, we can get 85% off I'm told. We might still need some kind of sponsor, but that should make it affordable.

That is still extortion on the scale of our users: (16985×5.25)×0.15 = £13375.6875 / mo.

When billed annually

If billed monthly: (16985×6.30)×0.15 = £16050.825 / mo

Only active users are billed I think

It's unlikely everyone is active

> Most enterprise software pricing is designed to charge you per user, regardless of how many people on your team are actively using the software. At Slack, you only get charged for what you use, so you don’t pay for the members who aren’t using Slack. And if someone you’ve already paid for becomes inactive, we’ll even add pro-rata credit to your account for the unused time. Fair’s fair. Learn more

Yeah, I highly doubt we have 16k active users

It would be interesting to know what the current active user count is

Would admins be able to see those stats?

I think they get a weekly email

I'm trying to remember where I heard about another language community qualifying for this discount

After reading the docs I'm worried it was done because they actually have a tax registered org

The last time we looked at pricing it was about $8,500 / month based on active users. That's still $1,275 / month with an 85% discount. A thousand quid a month.

Probably better to just post gif links directly 😉

And part of the reason we don't have giphy is that some people tend to overuse it and it can be very noisy and annoying (when you have thousands of people who want to have quiet technical chats). And, yes, it could be NSFW too. And we've already had problems with porn spammers here (although not lately... touch wood).

And we have very limited integrations on the free plan so we reserve them for things that might be globally useful for thousands of people (which means pretty much nothing). We have two logging bots (if you want history from early this year, go search in Zulip, hopefully the clojureverse.log log browsers will be up-to-date and running again sometime -- but, again, that's a time and cost issue which a lot of people just don't seem to appreciate).

Also, on the subject of global communities that are sensitive to their members' actual needs (rather than "I want X"), I've been in Slack spaces that banned because it can trigger epileptic events in people who are very photo-sensitive 😐

(I'm reminded of that by @dharrigan’s use of above)

I think we should all go back to irc 🙂

i don't. irc is quite sucky

We do have a bridge to IRCCloud installed here, if that's any help 🙂 I used that for a while at $5/month so I "didn't miss anything" but now I use Slack for work and several other communities I have no reason not to also use Slack for Clojure...

IRC would have block lists. Just need that bridge for history

I'm being a bit half-jokey. Slack has conquered the world (we use it at my workpace too). But i still use IRC for other stuff 🙂

People like their emoji's and gifs 🙂

i know you were being jokey - but irc is pretty rubbish. you have know idea of who you are talking to, which is ok sometimes and not others, getting a nick which can't be stolen is beyond 99% of the population, and netsplits