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spy (= glass) doors have been installed in all of our offices this week. No one wants them aside from management…
@U0N9SJHCH Supposedly, the official reason is that we want to be able to see who is in vs. who is out, but the culture here is such that people keep the doors open most of the time when they’re in and only close them when they need to concentrate.
so that makes no sense… I think it’s just the management being insecure… isn’t it always?
aside: I rmb there being some philosophical musing about “staring at the abyss and the abyss staring back at you”
my immediate thoughts were Foucault’s Panopticon, but on second thought that would require see-through mirrors
ar beat me to it. Panopticon is an idea proposed by Foucault? Didn’t know that… learn something new every day I suppose
mirror on the inside would be preferable. At least I don’t have to constantly have people walking around two metres from my desk in my peripheral vision. Now I have to choose between that or people being able to look over my shoulder at any time.
Probably sounds spoiled if you’re used to working in an open office, but being allowed to isolate and focus was one of the advantages of working in this place…
I disliked the open office variations that we had at our workplace, @simongray, but I’ve heard horror stories from other places. We were pretty cushy!
@simongray what’s your situation re: working from home at your current workplace?
I can do it, but there I am dealing with other distractions and the lack of an office, so I prefer coming in to work.
it was fantastic to be able to close the door to focus on something… now I get to watch people walking around in the hall all day :S
not sure what did you mean… is it the difference between transparent vs semi-transparent vs non-transparent (e.g. traditional wooden) door?
Before there was a door made of wood. Now there is a door made of transparent glass.
strange/awkward feeling I guess… when I was in university, the common room have transparent glass all over. And sometimes it feel like a giant fishbowl
so a clear downgrade, yet still an upgrade from my previous job which had an open office….
@simongray This begs the question: is there something for the eyes similar to what a noise-cancelling headphone for your ears is? 😆
it looks ridiculous, but if it didn't look so weird, I think it would have helped me in an open office situation. luckily, all work from home now
put one of these between the door and you https://duckduckgo.com/?q=paravent&t=brave&iax=images&ia=images
a common office arrangement I saw is open plan, but have some isolated pods for when you need to concentrate
though it can be argued that going to those pods may carry some stigma, not to mention possible scrutiny from management/surveilance
still a bit better than old school arrangement where it is “normal worker = open plan, senior and management = dedicated room with closable doors”
to be clear though, office plan is only part of the equation and overall culture plays a part too. e.g. having rooms with door won’t exactly save you when you are interrupted with invitation to attend meeting/discuss a matter “quickily” etc every hour 😉
I’ve worked in an environment like that and I was much less productive than I am now.
In the book Peopleware (a must read IMHO) it is described that IBM research revealed that office's (as opposed to open-plan) are 12% more productive for developers... and when I was working at Big Blue we had mostly open plan. :thinking_face:
probably as bean counters can only measure the cost of space per developer, not the productivity.
measuring productivity of software developer is a hard problem… but first of all: “measure LOC = perverse incentive/instant fail” 😱
yeah no idea how they measured developer productivity... it is from an IBM System Journal from the late '70s, I tried to look it up once, but IO don't think I found it.