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@borkdude is expert on doing that

(I'm including --enable-http here because I'll need it eventually – without that flag the resulting build is 13MB)

Since it's just a hello world, probably there is nothing that much to improve on clojure side

(oh and I'm using https://github.com/clj-easy/graal-build-time)

https://github.com/borkdude/dynaload may be a good lib to consider depending on how much your code increase

(and -Dclojure.compiler.direct-linking=true)

yeah, thanks

I think this is about the size you can expect from a clojure based image

clojure-lsp adds

-H:ServiceLoaderFeatureExcludeServices=javax.sound.sampled.spi.AudioFileReader \
     -H:ServiceLoaderFeatureExcludeServices=javax.sound.midi.spi.MidiFileReader \
     -H:ServiceLoaderFeatureExcludeServices=javax.sound.sampled.spi.MixerProvider \
     -H:ServiceLoaderFeatureExcludeServices=javax.sound.sampled.spi.FormatConversionProvider \
     -H:ServiceLoaderFeatureExcludeServices=javax.sound.sampled.spi.AudioFileWriter \
     -H:ServiceLoaderFeatureExcludeServices=javax.sound.midi.spi.MidiDeviceProvider \
     -H:ServiceLoaderFeatureExcludeServices=javax.sound.midi.spi.SoundbankReader \
     -H:ServiceLoaderFeatureExcludeServices=javax.sound.midi.spi.MidiFileWriter

hmm okay

I think that was copied from bb

and is probably not necessary

yeah, doesn't seem to make a difference

guess I'll write this thing in Rust instead 🙂

what kind of thing is it?

a utility that I'm packaging as a container, and that I need to be as small as possible to reduce latency when downloading it

is 10mb going to make a difference? zipped 5mb?

babashka installs in 0s on github actions and it's 25mb zipped or so (75 unzipped)

a reduction in size with upx doesn't even outweigh the smaller download, since the download is already zipped

and upx adds to the start time since it unzips the binary on every startup

Is this something that is intended to be run as a lambda?

you can also write lambdas with #nbb - just a couple of lines

https://www.juxt.pro/blog/nbb-lambda

They just have a new Node 18 runner. ARM runners are the fastest especially when you choose more memory

it's for something more like a backend for running lambdas

every MB counts

I could make sure to load it upfront of course, in which case it wouldn't be that big a deal

yeah in that case rust or go might make sense

if its the download latency youre worried about, id go with #nbb or layer in the binary in the runtime

but might as well go for smaller size so I can download it when I need it

or ... zig! :)

ive used https://docs.aws.amazon.com/lambda/latest/dg/configuration-layers.html for fat binaries before

thanks! 🙂

Also I think now you can also have ram loaded preemptively into AWS Lambda, so that startup time can become really minimal. I have not checked it out, but https://docs.aws.amazon.com/lambda/latest/dg/snapstart.html?icmpid=docs_lambda_rss

There's also tools that compress your exe and decompress and run them at runtime, like UPX and gzexe https://upx.github.io/ https://linux.die.net/man/1/gzexe

I'm aware of those tools but they affect startup time negatively

FWIW, upx was mentioned in the original message of this thread