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mogge and welcome @safe.hammad
For Christmas decorations - here in Oxford, so far, I have seen only one house decorated to the “US standards”. The same was with Halloween. I miss it, my kids love these decorations.
Good Morning! We put the christmas tree up on Saturday. My kid was bouncing off the walls with glee.
Sounds like fun @dharrigan 🙂
It was. Christmas is for kids, so seeing him enjoy the "prep" is amusing and nice for me to see
Morning! And thanks for the welcome 🙂 Huge excitement in our household decorating the tree over the weekend.
Definitely magic for young kids
How long until children become surly teenagers who want to lie in? 😉 My son is 14 months and he woke us up screaming at 02:45. I feel half dead, and also sorry for our neighbours...
having a decent sleep for the parents is the best birthday/christmas/major festival present anyone could get (who has children!)
You feel dreadful leaving them to cry, but the alternative is you end up with what my parents had to go through; apparently I didn't sleep all night until I was 4
We did the - let him cry for about one minute, go in and tap tap, reassure in soft voice, let him fall alseep, then extend the crying a little bit each week (when it happened). By month two-three, he was sleeping all night.
Of course, some nights, he wouldn't stop, but those decreased in frequency very rapidly after the start
At night, my kid sneezes, I'm like ZINGGG, I'm awake. The SO, is blissfully snoring her cute little face off beside me.
Well we tried it for a couple of weeks already and it just doesn't seem to work 😕 Maybe we're doing it wrong. He'll go down fine, often even without us being in the room, but at some point in the night he wakes and starts screaming seemingly because we're not there. If someone just goes into the room he'll settle himself down, but if they don't thus far the longest we've left it was just over an hour of constant crying. Laura's taken to bringing him into our bed even though we know that's bad just because with both of us back at work neither of us can cope with a night of how little sleep it would take otherwise. We need to be able to book a few weeks holiday to try and sort it, so maybe over Christmas.
At the moment it might be teething-related too. Laura is loath to drug him too quickly in case he doesn't need it, but Calpol is basically the first thing I do, and sometimes he settles right down after that.
I know a lot of collegues at work who started the habit of bringing their kid to their bed - now, even after years, the kid still demands it
I think it's important to keep the boundaries, to learn what is mummy and daddy''s and what is theirs.
I can't understand it when I see children of 3-4 even older in their pram sucking on a dummy
Mostly he chews his entire fist, or at least 3 fingers at a time, rather than thumb sucking
I definitely agree about the value of sleep training. We’ve essentially done that from the start, not so much the controlled crying thing in the early days, but maintaining and slowly evolving a bedtime routine etc. My daughter’s 17 months and sleeps well now; though we’re always having to slightly adjust the routine as things change. We’ve never hesitated with giving her some calpol, if there’s even a hint of teething or pain near bedtime we’ll give her a dose, to save the stress for all of us. We’ve never let her in our bed either (and she doesn’t need or want for it). I think when it comes to sleep the only advice I have that has worked well for us, is don’t chop and change between things too quickly. For example if they stir in the middle of the night crying, give them a minute or two to resettle themselves as your interventions can be more disruptive. Similarly if they’re in distress it can take them a while to settle regardless of the intervention (cuddling, nappy change, calpol etc), so try and minimise the disruption of the interventions, e.g. if there’s a dirty a nappy but you suspect teething too do them both quickly to get it over with. Then stick with your chosen intervention and give it a little longer than you might think necessary to work, before trying something else. These things are processes and to some extent you need to let them run their course, it doesn’t mean you’re not doing the right thing. I’d also agree with @dharrigan about advice from other parents… take it with a pinch of salt, there aren’t any right answers and every child and family is different. Children need to adapt to your way of living as much as you need to adapt to theirs. You just need to empathise with their situation and try and see things from their perspective to understand what’s going on, but don’t be afraid of trying to find that compromise where you can all be happy.
Oh one thing I will say, was at about 14 months our daughter sleep regressed a bit… it’s quite common. Something to do with learning to walk/talk etc… Anyway we found during that period that she’d wake at 3am screaming… and the usual effective interventions had all stopped working. It turned out that she was desperate to play. Once we realised if she wasn’t settling we’d just let her run around and play with her toys for an hour in her dimly lit room, before picking her up and trying to put her down again. Playing with toys for an hour at 3/4am isn’t the intervention I wanted, but it was what she required and ultimately letting her do it was the quickest way at that time to get her back down without tears. It was also a phase that appeared to end after about a week.
That's possibly what we've got at the moment. He's 14 months, has just started to walk (literally took his first steps yesterday)...
Yeah, if it happens again just try putting him down on his feet… if he screams it might not be that, but if he stops you’ll know :man-shrugging:
a few months ago, my kid started waking up at about 4am, saying "daddy daddy". I would go into his bed room and he would say "I want to sleep together (meaning he wants me to sleep on the floor beside him". I put up with it for a bit (thinking it was a phase). He didn't stop. So a week or so ago, both myself and mummy told him before going to bed each night, that if he wakes, up, to not call out, to try and sleep again. He tried a few times, but I would go in and say "Mummy and Daddy are sleeping. It's sleep time, not playtime - try to close your eyes and sleep again". I would then go back to bed. After a few tears, he did, now he's back to regular sleeping again.
My mum used to put whisky in my milk bottle 🙂 Times have changed...
I am hoping last night was not just a happy accident. We swapped round, so I did bath/bedtime and Laura walked the dog instead of vice versa. Straight down and slept right through instead of crying every time Laura left the room and waking crying (that she's not there?) in the night. Going to try sticking this way round for the rest of the week at least.
:thumbsup: nice one… hope that’s it 🤞 We recently made some similar adjustments, because my daughter got excessively clingy to my wife after we we’d been isolating with covid… which meant that she was crying when my wife would pass her to me to put down to bed. We didn’t swap roles though, just adjusted how we do the transition.
The main problem I have with Black Friday is that it seems to last for at least a whole WEEK!!!! What are these people thinking?
and for a while (maybe it's still a thing?) there was a "Cyber Monday", which was supposed to be the online equivalent to the Black Friday, no?
yes, I think there was... not sure what happened to that.... I guess with COVID everything is online now
Well I've just seen a load of Dell ads for 'Cyber Monday savings' in the UK, so I assume at least some companies are still doing it
au contraire conor
c a p i t a l i s m
As we get closer to the yawning vortex deep at the heart of modern life, even time itself is being stretched out like spaghetti
(and it will last 7.5 weeks)
@dharrigan Yes, but now I'm wondering how that is going to tie into Black Friday and capitalism 😉
Dunno what you're all complaining about. All these black friday deals need e-commerce systems you can easily scale up on demand (i.e. they keep the likes of us in work). 🤑
Aah. S04E06. For some reason Netflix UK only has up to S04E05, so I've not seen beyond that
Good Morning. The London Clojurians group has just passed the 2000 members
Just a quick reminder about tomorrow's event with @borkdude about babashka https://www.meetup.com/London-Clojurians/events/274014078/
It's kind of UK-related so I'll just mention in passing #jobs...
Also, I've been working on some code recently in an attempt to run a remote "white elephant gift exchange" for the office. https://github.com/peterwestmacott/remotewhiteelephant
it's super Work-in-progress right now, but I figured someone else might find it valuable in these socially distant times