clojure-dev

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-04T19:23:32.086879Z

if anyone is interested in helping with Clojure dev, Fogus and I have identified a list of bugs that need some cleanup and review before Rich looks at them for vetting in 1.12. We'd be happy to have help in this process. Depending on response, I'll decide how to convey what needs to be done, not sure if chat/zoom/1-1 makes the most sense. Drop in thread if interested.

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2022-03-04T19:24:51.088219Z

Iโ€™d be interested, depending on availability.

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-04T19:27:38.263169Z

can be mostly or totally asynchronous and best effort :)

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2022-03-04T19:28:20.673189Z

Perfect. Sounds do-able to me!

dpsutton 2022-03-04T19:36:15.616319Z

iโ€™d love to help out in this

Ben Sless 2022-03-04T19:36:34.507789Z

"You have my bow"

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seancorfield 2022-03-04T20:27:04.383209Z

Very interested in contributing one way or another -- but I don't have availability in March (but can dig in from April onward).

Kirill Chernyshov 2022-03-04T20:33:01.205329Z

"And my axe!"

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Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-04T20:37:55.198259Z

well I don't think we're going to run out of tickets :)

jmv 2022-03-04T21:35:06.155869Z

Hi, I think I could help out. What kind of time commitment do you think this would be?

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-04T21:36:30.050889Z

whatever you want it to be :)

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slipset 2022-03-04T21:51:03.991789Z

Happy to help!

imre 2022-03-04T22:23:07.373889Z

I won't have too much free time in the coming months but would be interested to know more in case I might be able to help after all

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ksd 2022-03-04T23:38:25.455489Z

^ likewise

2022-03-16T14:30:15.584809Z

@alexmiller You happen to have a link to the video?

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-16T14:56:38.856099Z

thx for the reminder, never got an alert back on that so let me check on it

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-16T14:58:48.216719Z

ok, I have it, just need to chop it down a bit and post it somewhere, not sure I will get to that today and I'm out rest of the week, so we'll see

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slipset 2022-03-16T14:59:48.761289Z

So starting to look a bit into this, we have the filter https://clojure.atlassian.net/issues/?filter=10032 for the 1.12 candidates. The first issue that pops up there https://clojure.atlassian.net/browse/CLJ-2521?filter=10032 seems to be in a state thatโ€™s somewhat more than triaged. looking at https://clojure.org/dev/workflow would it be correct to say that itโ€™s in a state waiting to be vetted by Rich? I guess the problem Iโ€™m grapling with is wether there is anything for the community to do on this (and other similar issues) or if we should have some other filter for โ€œIssues which are candidates for 1.12 which the community can help move forwardโ€?

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-16T15:02:56.157089Z

everything in this list is something we would like Rich to look at and target for 1.12, so I would like them to be in a state where they are at least good problem reports and ideally good problems. some are in ok shape, some may not be

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-16T15:03:18.202929Z

maybe @fogus can look through them and suggest ones that need more work than others

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slipset 2022-03-16T15:04:07.636589Z

https://clojure.atlassian.net/browse/CLJ-2126 could get a test? Shouldnโ€™t be too difficult to write?

slipset 2022-03-16T15:06:25.274879Z

https://clojure.atlassian.net/browse/CLJ-1872 seems to be in less than a pristine state, like, Iโ€™d need to look into the patch to understand the approach taken (I believe)

slipset 2022-03-16T15:06:48.239079Z

Iโ€™m just listing here as a future reference for myself/others if thatโ€™s ok.

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-16T15:07:34.542269Z

on 2126, yes test would be helpful, could just add it as an additional patch and list both in the description

slipset 2022-03-16T15:09:32.987519Z

https://clojure.atlassian.net/browse/CLJ-2698 needs more investigation it seems, missing both an approach and a patch/test. Seems involved ๐Ÿ™‚

slipset 2022-03-16T15:10:55.473679Z

https://clojure.atlassian.net/browse/CLJ-2694 seems good

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-16T15:11:19.328409Z

on 1872, more than anything I think the real problem here is one of clarifying abstractions and expectations. One thing I think is missing a little bit on this is the motivation for a case where it would be useful to want this. I've certainly run into it and seen others run into it, but I don't have a motivating case at hand.

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-16T15:12:18.312589Z

just to repeat, for the purposes of vetting/targeting, we don't actually care about the solutions or patches much (but of course, working on those is also useful)

slipset 2022-03-16T15:13:57.557439Z

I donโ€™t seem to have edit rights on CLJ-2160 ?

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-16T15:14:33.305819Z

shouldn't be any ticket-specific differences

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-16T15:14:53.104699Z

I'm assuming you're logged in?

slipset 2022-03-16T15:14:53.309909Z

Dโ€™oh. PEBCAK

slipset 2022-03-16T15:17:50.180739Z

https://clojure.atlassian.net/browse/CLJ-2160 is fairly involved would IMO warrant some tests

2022-03-16T15:20:57.085999Z

Might be good to make corresponding comments in Jira

slipset 2022-03-16T15:22:32.386239Z

Noting ๐Ÿ™‚

slipset 2022-03-16T15:22:50.181699Z

https://clojure.atlassian.net/browse/CLJ-1929 could do with a test

2022-03-16T15:24:17.228339Z

Can we move chatter re: work to the main channel and reserve this thread for getting started? I donโ€™t wanna unsubscribe so Alex has a place to drop the link when he gets it ready.

slipset 2022-03-16T15:26:31.757549Z

Most certainly.

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Ben Sless 2022-03-16T16:35:19.903479Z

Any update on the recording?

dpsutton 2022-03-16T16:35:57.944639Z

buried in the thread but from alex: > ok, I have it, just need to chop it down a bit and post it somewhere, not sure I will get to that today and Iโ€™m out rest of the week, so weโ€™ll see

dpsutton 2022-03-16T16:36:08.697339Z

it = the recording

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-16T16:36:17.268639Z

it's uploading

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Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-16T16:37:38.709679Z

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9uErbiQSro

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Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-16T16:37:49.001369Z

not there yet but the bits must flow ...

Ben Sless 2022-03-16T17:08:43.601119Z

He who controls the bits, controls the clojureverse!

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-16T17:30:27.705249Z

I think it's up now

souenzzo 2022-03-07T12:21:29.377129Z

would love to participate ๐Ÿ™‚

paulocuneo 2022-03-06T16:12:04.260829Z

I feel like an intruder in this channel ๐Ÿ˜†, but I'd like to help

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Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-08T21:08:17.725449Z

Updating on this... I kind of jumped into this with a list and an idea (and without a plan), so I am kind of forming that as I go. I rewrote this page yesterday: https://clojure.org/dev/screening_tickets to cover a lot of the things I think are important and to serve as a written guide. I'm going to do a zoom on Monday 3/14 and will record it as well, still in the process of working through some IT things to get there. Time will be 9 am US Eastern, noon US Pacific, 4 pm GMT

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jmv 2022-03-08T22:16:25.761619Z

9am eastern will be 6am pacific

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-08T22:59:32.239649Z

gah, I flipped those - 9 am pacific, noon eastern is what I meant :)

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slipset 2022-03-09T06:01:47.170169Z

1700 CET? Will you be posting the zoom link here?

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-09T06:11:18.477949Z

Yes

nbardiuk 2022-03-05T10:29:21.080789Z

I would like to help

pavlosmelissinos 2022-03-05T10:43:51.959569Z

I'd like to help too ๐Ÿ™‚

jaihindhreddy 2022-03-05T10:44:52.165649Z

I'd like to help too.

bronsa 2022-03-05T13:48:37.880969Z

obviously count me in :)

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-05T16:26:44.431289Z

I know many of you are already on the contributors list, but if not, please follow the instructions here to sign the CA and get access to jira: https://clojure.org/dev/dev#_becoming_a_contributor

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2022-03-05T23:23:20.130939Z

I'd like to help :)

slipset 2022-03-14T07:11:20.275939Z

Ah, ok, 16 and not 17 CEST:

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-14T13:32:06.179959Z

yes, sorry - the time https://everytimezone.com/s/541e6757 is an hour earlier than I quoted last week (90 minutes from now), I am trying to dodge people working at my house (which I may still fail at) :) but, I'm going to record, so no worries if you miss it

2022-03-14T16:17:59.536329Z

Sad to miss the meeting. Had a work thing come up. Looking forward to watching the vid.

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2022-03-13T19:51:11.088259Z

Looking forward to the zoom call tomorrow!

Alex Miller (Clojure team) 2022-03-14T01:27:33.730129Z

speaking of... zoom: https://nubank.zoom.us/j/89103959413?pwd=b3dSNEJNaFZoTWppZEhyOWF1VHZtdz09 time: https://everytimezone.com/s/541e6757 info: https://clojure.org/dev/screening_tickets (as a starting point)

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