Is there a guide anywhere for developing the clojurescript compiler and core lib? I'm trying to set it up with lein checkouts but not having any luck.

@tomc why do you need checkouts for this?

also might want to ask these kinds of questions in #cljs-dev

I have an existing lein-based project that uses the clojurescript compiler as a library and I'm curious whether some changes to clojurescript would be beneficial to me. Wanted to poke around at it before opening a ticket. Thanks for the tip about the other channel.

well checkouts should work in theory, but I honestly don't use that enough to say what might be going wrong

Hi, what would be the best suggested approach, library for implementing clojurescript frontend. Currently looking at Reagent, but what is de-facto industry standart currently, which at the same time is not just blurp in the skies of "modernity". Also - unfortunately I am alien to JS at all and web-frontend (some time ago I could write plain HTML with tables and frames)

Reagent and Rum are probably the easiest to get started with.

We use reagent in production. Hugely useful library

If your app has more wizard-y type stuff check out https://github.com/Guaranteed-Rate/re-flow

@olekss.janis I don't think Reagent or any of the React wrappers are going anywhere anytime soon

you'll probably get the most support if you use Reagent as it's the most popular by far

Thanks, Looks like then I will tackle Reagent, as it taps into React, which currently is pretty stable and used all over the place. SO be it. My use case is board-game for 2-4 players. Server would provide web-agnostic backend which I am writing now to learn Clojure, and obviously this frotnend library with clojurescript will do the frontend work. I would need to represent game board (image) with player pieces on it, and provde players with valid actions to perform. What else I would need probably at some point is web-sockets, as when player x does itš move, other players have to get updated state automathically, but that is future thing to do. Now need to start working on rudimentary game board rendering.

as long as your graphics needs are relatively modest, I don't see why doing a board game with React would present any problems

does anyone know if it is possible/planned to be able to use clojurescript/node.js with datomic cloud ions?

@olekss.janis on the end you want choose re-frame or fulcro.

@kwladyka i disagree. pure reagent is better.

Ok so you have more complex decision to make :)

I am going sleep, good night :)

i have not looked at fulcro but i know from experience that re-frame is a drastic departure from the Lisp way (as professed by Sussman, Abelson, et al)

re-frame is a very heavyweight/boilerplate heavy, opinionated "framework" (which is also discouraged even in the Clojure tradition)

IMO fulcro is heavy, re-frame is light

wow, then yea stay very far away from fulcro

🙂

;)

re-frame is mainly about manage state and events in app, i want to have it anyway

Unless it is super simple web site, then probably doesn’t matter

Ok I am going sleep, this time for real. Good night :)

yea, it's possible to have a hybrid approach where you use local state where you want it (against the re-frame manifesto) and buy-in to the re-frame way where you need to. but i found the incompatibility with devcards a deal breaker

g'night