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I have a utility to write, to slurp files from a s3 bucket and do some processing on them
I've just received two letters from political parties who I definitely didn't give my address to. I'm not happy.
Actually. Someone has done some data analysis and decided I'm a Conservative voter and my partner is a Labour voter.
tl;dr Partially, yes AFAIK https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/be-data-aware/political-campaigning-practices-direct-marketing/
I have to fucking opt out for every entity involved with a party? Are you kidding me.
I'm also upset that they get privileged register access, as I explicitly state that I'm not to be sold to other people.
but at the moment the Conservatives are horrible people who are bad with money and will ruin the country whilst remaianing horrible
and Labour Leadership are so horrible that they've pushed all their good people into backbenching; otherwise they would be walking this
LibDem are still being punished for having the temerity to go into power 9 years ago
people I've worked with and respect find Jeremy Corbyn's Labour party to be very scary
When I looked at it, it seemed like he was on the right side. But I also don't regularly follow the news. I just investigate claims like "corbyn hates Jews" occasionally.
ideally no-one would get a majority, and they'll have to discuss issues like grownup and learn to get along with each other
surely one's vote in this election should be guided only by the brexit outcome you deem desirable - everything else is changeable at the next election, but the brexit outcomes (other than revoke a50) are irreversible
I've given up on brexit. I just want it over so we can start enjoying or hating the effects.
but it might turn out that square miles of elevated land becomes valuable as the sea levels rise
On the other hand, a sudden unexpected increase in the value of land doesn't seem to be helping the average Bolivian at the moment.
Lord Bucketface has reinvented himself as Count Binface, so that's always an option if you're in Uxbridge (sadly, neither of us are).
I guess Independents with a larger than normal vote share can use it as leverage in future elections
also tbh you can’t complain about politics unless you use your vote. people have died for the right to vote and however exhausting politics is atm it’s your responsibility to research and use it imo
I disagree with you on that. Deciding not to participate still gives you the right to complain. Tho I will be voting.
idk I have friends that spoiled ballots in areas that actually swing between parties so maybe that’s why I’m so harsh about it
I still think it is a good idea to cajole/encourage friends to vote (depending on the politics of said friends 😉 )
I started the last decade with a mix of voting patterns among my mates, but now I think the furthest right any go is lib dem tbh
but, like, the powers that be want you to not care, to not research, ideally to not vote at all
If you can find an independent who's message you like, or who seems less shifty than the alternative...
Are independents an abstained vote then? I don't understand what happens when they win really. There's no majority, so they're just suppressed the whole time.
I meant: if you're worried about the independents having no power because they can't use a majority to pass legislation, the same applies to any minority
Independents can’t get whipped by their party; so they can vote how they like in parliament. They can in principle side with the government, the opposition, or anyone or anything else.
So an independent in theory doesn’t have to do as they’re told; aside from pleasing their constituents. Obviously they probably end up doing their own deals etc. Also more chance of independents (and smaller parties) being king makers in an (almost) hung parliament.
independents matter more when the numbers on an issue are close. It also can get them in the news.
@ben.hammond I'd actually dispute the, "spoilage is a better statement than not voting" notion. Turnout figures are discussed as significant, seen as relevant and used as political capital. Spoiled ballots are not.
An unhealthy aspect of this election is that various parties have decided NOT to field candidates
i'm fine with this - it's rational behaviour for the non-incumbents in our fptp system
if it works then we'll probably end up with a coalition, which would also be the likely result of having a less shit voting system, and seems more likely to engender the grown-up collaboration we'd all like to see
@ben.hammond A powerful statement to who though? Spoiled ballots are still mostly placed in the, "idiot who ticked two boxes" category by the media and politicians so they count for nothing. Whereas if 95% of the electorate are not motivated to vote, the winning party spends the next 5 years being hammered with the message that they don't have a proper mandate. I'd argue that not turning up actually sends are more powerful statement than a spoiled ballot.
Yeah, I think if there's a low turnout the spin will be "Britain couldn't be bothered" rather than "Britain didn't want to choose between two shit parties"
depends a bit on whether or not there is a large movement of "they are all awful, we're unhappy". If there is low turnout and no disruption or alternative to daily life then it will just be seen as apathy.
All true enough. I think all I am really saying is, for better or worse, low turn out gets more credit for being the result of political disillusionment than spoiled ballots do. Not sure that this is the proper way to think about it, but it's what tends to happen. I am still giving very serious thought to turning up and simply writing a nice christmas message on my ballot addressed to whoever is doing the count. It sincerely feels like the most good I am able to do this time around.
@minimal Somebody sent me that. I rejected every policy on the first question (and was told I couldn't do this), and when I eventually finished it, two parties were joint first in my results. So I found it less helpful than billed 🙂
obvs that means you should yourself be standing as an independent @wesley.hall, 'cos no party represents you
@mccraigmccraig Considered it for a laugh, but my wife has already pledged for Labour and I don't know anybody else that would vote for me. Even I'd have to think about it.
I do wonder about things like that voteforpolicies website and whether they are used to misinform people
It’s certainly true of some of the tactical voting sites. vote for polices lets you browse the policies by party at the end to check though
they built targeted misinformation based on data they mined from facebook, granted by quizzes
Might be the case, but regardless I do still wonder about sites like these when I see them
I suspect VfP leans left since it's online and more accessible to folks who lean left (this is a general problem with online only survey systems). That said, it thinks I should vote LibDem (which I have in local elections in the past) or Labour (which I've done in GEs)... and it suggests Aldershot could possibly go to Labour which seems... wishful thinking... it's been Conservative since its creation 100 years ago 😐
I am in the UK only 2 months so I might be too early to judge but all parties propose almost the same thing. LibDems and Labour seem interchangeable. Conservatives have pro-brexit and anti-brexit wings and the rest is the same “let’s keep NHS, more money for… everybody” as LibDems and Labour.