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agigao06:09:53

დილა მშვიდობის

agigao06:09:55

It has been a while since the last time I worked from a coffee shop. After descending from the mountains it feels rather strange

hkjels07:09:40

God morgen!

plexus08:09:30

Good morning! after a few cold and dreadful days the sun has decided to grace Berlin with its presence once more. 🐻 ☀️

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Dmytro Bunin08:09:20

I just now realized that ‘Ber’ part of Berlin kinda sounds like a bear. And now seeing bears everywhere in Berlin suddenly make sense to me 😂😂😂

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ordnungswidrig12:09:34

Lol, I just googled and learned it’s derived from slawik term berlo which means muddy. etc. Fun fact, my Home town’s name “Ulm” is derived from “Hulma” which also means muddy, swampy.

genRaiy09:09:22

wet morning

javahippie09:09:21

Sunny morning! ☺️

slipset09:09:33

I looked through some of the Clojure North presentations from this summer. I'm struck by how much more apparent delivery skills are when the conf is online. Some speakers manage to talk to the virtual audience, some speakers are just talking to themselves.

slipset09:09:42

This is just an observation.

agigao09:09:19

Lazy morning 🐼

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practicalli-johnny09:09:13

@slipset It took me a long time to get used to presenting virtually, but after about 100 hours of doing so (commercially and on Practicalli) I eventually got as accustomed to it as presenting to an audience in person. It’s especially difficult when you can’t see the other people you are speaking too.

slipset09:09:55

Yeah, I guess what I'm getting at (very much for my self, actually) is that presenting from a stage and presenting virtually are two very different skills.

slipset09:09:28

Also, it would be interesting to see how virtual presentations will evolve. Now we seem to be mimicking what we do IRL, but there might be other ways of conveying the information that is more suited for the virtual conference.

slipset09:09:52

And, who says that a virtual conference thing has to be live? Maybe it could be a recorded screencast?

slipset09:09:37

In other words, what's the "liveness" of a virtual conf-talk actually bringing to the table?

borkdude10:09:23

> It’s especially difficult when you can’t see the other people you are speaking too. That's also been my experience, I've done this two times now during the past 6 months. I much prefer presenting IRL.

borkdude10:09:20

WSLConf used this https://hopin.to/ for their conf. It was quite nice: they even had a room where you could socialize and randomly meet someone "face to face"

plexus10:09:45

> In other words, what's the "liveness" of a virtual conf-talk actually bringing to the table? IMO nothing, pre-recorded allows for higher quality, gives attendees flexibility in when they watch it. Keep live for interactive sessions: q&a, group discussion, etc

borkdude10:09:58

I do think liveness adds something: at least you feel like you're doing it for the people watching right now and not some hypothetic future. Also sometimes you can get questions during the talk (although that's more for meetups maybe) and having a QA right after doesn't require people to do their homework of watching the talk at a different time

borkdude10:09:32

There's something to say for both approaches

slipset11:09:26

There is I guess two aspects to liveness though. It’s a bit like the difference between a deploy and a release.

slipset11:09:41

There is nothing which stops us from doing a rehearsed recording of a presentation (a deploy), and only releasing it on the conference (and being present at the release to take questions and such while recording is being shown)

RAMart12:09:42

@plexus @borkdude @slipset Thanks for your valuable input an insight!

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