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mikepjb07:09:44

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practicalli-johnny08:09:06

Itโ€™s nice to sleep in my own bed for a change...

otfrom08:09:06

any cycling planned for today @jr0cket?

practicalli-johnny09:09:00

@otfrom In my mind I don't think I have stopped cycling yet... I am sure I was dreaming about cycling last night. My personal trainer @gaivile suggested London to Oxford to Cambridge and back to London again for this Sunday. That would be 380km in one day and take about 17 hours of cycling (maybe I can find a shorter route)

practicalli-johnny09:09:56

I'll probably just help my neighbor with her Amazon fire TV setup today... and maybe look for a job ๐Ÿ˜

practicalli-johnny09:09:58

@ben.hammond London to Paris seems not a bad days ride, about 450km plus ferry.

Ben Hammond09:09:29

once truly addicted, folk get into https://www.transcontinental.cc/

practicalli-johnny09:09:32

In a moment of madness I did suggest coast to coast - New York to San Francisco. It would only take a month of cycling...

Ben Hammond09:09:31

finding the time always seems the hardest problem

Ben Hammond09:09:38

(or the best excuse)

practicalli-johnny09:09:47

The Transcontinental sounds fun and I could drop in on Bozhidar in Bulgaria before the start and talk about all things CIDER and Emacs ๐Ÿ˜

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otfrom10:09:44

@jr0cket when does it turn into self supported bikepacking? HT550? NC500? The Central Belter? (and those are just in Scotland)

practicalli-johnny10:09:51

I could just ride the Cairngorms in Scotland for the rest of my life, it was so beautiful riding over them on a lovely sunny day.

otfrom10:09:37

there is a good bike shop in Aviemore (Bothy Bikes)

otfrom10:09:50

you could move there. It is on the mainline between Perth and Inverness

Ben Hammond11:09:03

and thence to King's Cross

gaivile10:09:17

Yeah, Transcontinental looks like a good thing to do before Coast to Coast ride :thumbsup: But weโ€™ll need some proper training for that, and different bikes - as itโ€™s self-supported :thinking_face:

Ben Hammond11:09:15

heh. the USP of a Brompton is that you can take onto bus or train as you wish

danm12:09:28

Jesus, and i thought doing 100mi in a day was mental...

dharrigan13:09:45

TIL, "merging" two (or more) comp's together is a no-brainer

dominicm13:09:22

Compositions which compose with each other? Madness!

dharrigan15:09:21

@dominicm tis like inception

dominicm15:09:34

At some point you realize everything in clojure composes really well, and that's the point

Ben Hammond15:09:53

haha; and then you come across somtthing that is just a thin-wrapper over Java and you are eaten by a Grue carrying a NullPointerExceptions

mccraigmccraig16:09:15

@ben.hammond you just need a container with an error state, like a promise or an either, and then your Java wrappers will also compose nicely!

Ben Hammond16:09:51

my point really in that you need to gain awareness of what is nice, bulletproof idiomatic Clojure and what is just a thin wrapper around a fragile bit of Java

Ben Hammond16:09:15

one you know which bits are fragile, you can take the steps to protect yourself

Ben Hammond16:09:55

but its a lesson that's painfully learned

maleghast16:09:32

(I have the scars...)

mccraigmccraig19:09:10

huh, well java is surely more fragile, but clojure is not blameless for NPEs... it's all fragile without static checking

dominicm19:09:07

I just use some-> all the time