With great power comes corruption quickly IMHO.

Yes, the overlords I’m thinking of are, in contrast to the Netherlands, already in an overlord-like position. Everyone has the potential to be like them 🙂

well that escalated quickly 😱🙈

ikr

And "where are you from?" can mean "where do you live?" or "where do your family lines originate?" -- in the USA, it nearly always gets answered as the latter question 🙂 Hence I used the 🇬🇧 emoji above but I live in California 🙂

With the added problem of "but where are you really from" if you don't look or sound like people expect

Yes, and that is certainly problematic...

or learn to swim?

That's one thing Dutch do well: teach kids to swim at a young age. At least in my day, don't know currently ;)

But you can only keep swimming for so long. Apeldoorn is quite safe though

yep my kids are certainly doing that

Here's room for a bunch of people, probably all of you: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/19/sweden-north-green-jobs

Article is a year old but the project number of jobs has only gone up afaik. I guess polar night is better than being under water. 🙂

I’m assuming the Norwegians said “yeah, sure!”

Most of them did :)

Velkomman allihop!

Are the Netherlands generally close to sea level? I think that if you guys are screwed, so are we. We’re pretty flat.

https://www.ecoclimax.com/2017/06/political-map-of-europe-2100.html

flat isn't a problem as long as the flatness starts at the right height

that's only thinking about the water tho, not about the heat

more heat, more evaporation... hehe

Well, we can’t be entirely flat. We’ve got loads of beaches where dry land and ocean meet. That implies some height difference to sea level 😄

A huge portion of NL is below sea level

https://netherlandsinsiders.com/how-much-of-the-netherlands-is-below-sea-level/

especially Gouda Thomas ;)

@U04V15CAJ if you give up this altruistic idea of yours of only working OSS, we could even give you a job ASAP ZULU!

You mean like ... a proper job? 😍

I ive well below sea leavel.

Yes a proper job 🙂

Located nicely above sea level.

Come to BG we are above sea level for sure

plus our population is rapidly shrinking anyway

Thats one of the reasons we plan to move from the west to the east of the Netherlands.

@U26FJ5FDM any concrete plans yet?

Yes, very concrete. We signed for a newly build house, should be done somewhere in 2024. Part of the project is appartements through, and they have a hard time selling them. So looks like it could be some more months before they start building.

Which city?

Nijmegen

nice. and you came from Gouda?

No, Papendrecht currently.

will you change jobs because of this?

Nope I could work anywhere with an internet connection with my current work. Travel to office actually improves through, instead of the bus, I can go with the intercity train.

nice. you worked in Nieuwegein right?

Well the company I used to work has it's office there. It's AxonIQ for about half a year now. Which has an 'office' on Utrecht city centre. But only on Tuesdays there are more than a few people.

nice

No Clojure, but pretty nice working for a product company. Large portion of the work is on open source.

No Clojure yet

There is actually some Clojure, as part of trying to test Axon Server.