So, with the new reagent 6.0, subscriptions are executed asynchronously? Is re-frame going to use the track functionality? https://reagent-project.github.io/news/news060-alpha.html

Don’t think there’s any plans for switching to it immediately, it’s pretty similar to what we do already in re-frame, and I’m not sure how it would work with dynamic subscriptions

If there was a benefit to switching would be happy to hear it though

@seantempesta: there's no change to the way that subscriptions happen in 6.0, other than they will be de-duplicated which is really just an under-the-covers efficiency thing. subscriptions have always been asynchronous, and that contniues.

track is sugar over reaction. But we won't be using it.

We're looking at adding a more re-frame specific sugar https://github.com/Day8/re-frame/issues/170 if we get it right you don't even have to know about track or reaction

Hey guys, just about ot get started with our first re-frame app. Is there a good resource outside of the documentation on how to “get started”?

(the docs are incredible, but just curious if there is anything else out there too to supplement)

@erichmond: would a couple of tiny apps that use the lein re-frame-template help? https://github.com/fasiha/zip-code-re-frame & https://github.com/fasiha/re-simple-term

sure! thanks!!

I found it was not too intimidating to make a bare-bones lein re-frame-template app, and just start adding slots to default-db in db.cljs, add subscriptions to those slots in subs.cljs, make bigger views in views.cljs and matching handlers in handlers.cljs

My only big obstacle with using re-frame-template was that it used Figwheel as a backend when you request it add Compjure via +handler, and for someone who's never set up their own http-kit/Ring/Compojure server, it was a lot of work to figure out how to get that going.

ahhh ok

I’ve done that before

But I can't really blame re-frame-template for not being super-supportive of backends right

I’m pretty well versed in clj, first foray into cljs

Lucky 😄 !

thank you for the repos tho! these will be amazingly helpful!

I'm a beginner tho, there's definitely different/better ways to do even those small apps. Like in the zip-code-re-frame views.cljs, I see I hadn't learned how to name variables to differentiate between subscriptions (ratoms) versus values. Nowadays I wouldn't have main-panel get subscriptions just to hand them off to a sub-component (which could get it itself, better separation of concerns).

i found skimming through fractalify was helpful as well: https://github.com/madvas/fractalify/

Heretical question: is there any way in Chrome/Firefox JS Console to get access to the current app-db? To look at a JS value stored inside it without going thru cljs REPL (lacking tab completion) or heaven forbid change it in a pinch?

@fasiha: yes there is re_frame.db.app_db. As you can see objects are not kebab-case anymore in JS land, for this king of thing I'd also recommend cljs-devtools or dirac

Hi. I am trying to use re-frame-tracer with re-natal but cannot enable the tracing with clairvoyant.core.devmode

Here is excerpt from project.clj: `:profiles {:dev {:dependencies [[figwheel-sidecar "0.5.0-2"] [com.cemerick/piggieback "0.2.1"]] :source-paths ["src" "env/dev"] :cljsbuild {:builds {:android {:source-paths ["src" "env/dev"] :figwheel true :compiler {:output-to "target/android/not-used.js" :main "env.android.main" :output-dir "target/android" :closure-defines {"clairvoyant.core.devmode" true} :externs ["resources/public/vendor/js/react-native.ext.js"]`

js/clairvoyant.core.devmode is false

@erichmond: my big tip for getting into cljs would be to use cljs-devtools!!!!! And dirac (slightly more setup)

@fasiha: https://github.com/Day8/re-frame/wiki/FAQ#5-how-can-i-inspect-app-db

@richiardiandrea: "kabab-case" !!! That's just brilliant. Your invention?

ahhaha no no isn't that a thing? lol 😄

trying to follow the jargon 😉

and look professional ah ha

Buzz-word compliance is very important

I now have a new one

But ... I am left wondering ... if this-is-kebab case then what_is_this ?

have a look here, it is a thing (and this lib is useful!) https://github.com/qerub/camel-snake-kebab

I know my mind was blown as well

😄

SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE is the best lol

I feel my life has taken a small but important step forward.

@johnpeters: odd. What you have there seems right.