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I was thinking: do people that work with iOS development can apply for additional money, because the risk of insalubrity? πŸ˜„. I was trying to add an icon to an app, and it's SO HARD and bizarre things kept breaking on XCode with no reason...


> XCode quit unexpectedly 😐 "unexpected" is not quite the word I'd use...

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OH: "First you pay for the access, then you pay for the privilege."


I've heard is a rather nice alternative to XCode although I haven't used it myself.

Cora (she/her)20:03:27

I swear vim keybindings broke my brain. I avoid otherwise amazing tools just because they don't have them, and then struggle to make less optimal tools work just so I can keep the keybindings

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I've described it as "vim ruined me for other editors" for many years. Once you go modal...


It's especially bad for me because I'm (in theory) interested in hybrid visual/textual editors that leverage touch capabilities / direct manipulation / etc but my precious keybindings will keep dragging me back to plain text if I allow them to (and that's the path of least resistance)


I guess I should try acme sometime if I want a totally different editing experience


Vim? That's an odd way to spell Emacs!

Cora (she/her)14:03:11

I mean I use evil in emacs, so yes πŸ™‚

Jon Boone20:03:48

Hi! Which channel is best for asking about website development within a clojure/clojurescript ecosystem?

Cora (she/her)20:03:17

probably best to start with #beginners and go from there? there are a number of different paths you could take to do web dev and it would be great to have some context on what you're trying to do before anyone recommends a path

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Cora (she/her)20:03:14

to give you a little context on that: you could develop frontend and backend entirely independently in which case there are individual web server libraries and front-end libraries/frameworks. there are also libraries/frameworks that encompass both the server and client

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Cora (she/her)20:03:35

so what you'd like and what you'd like to do changes quite a bit

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Cora (she/her)20:03:27

oh, and in case no one else says it: welcome! πŸ’œ

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