A small snippet: (or (some-> req :path-params :slug db/page html-ok) (not-found)) My gut feeling here is that this is too javascripty and not idiomatic clojure. html-ok and not-found are rendering some html and put that into a ring response. To me this expression seems clear in isolation. Do you agree?

does html-ok return nil if no page is found?

not this is less about overall structure (which is ad-hoc at this point) and more about the general approach to do this kind of thing.

db/page returns nil

I'd use an if-let myself

which is why I used some->

instead of or ?

yeah

fetch the page in an if-let and either render ok or not-found

I think that's clearer

yeah, having the two branches of the if be the render calls makes sense to me

ah - you mean the db/page into the if-let. because it confuses the reader that this is typically the thing that will short circuit?

yes

right that makes sense ty

much better ty:

(if-let [page (some-> req :path-params :slug db/page)]
    (html-ok page)
    (not-found))

That is kind of my bigger question. I’m used to using || and ?? in JS a ton.

const thing = maybe || default;

I use or to apply defaults, eg.

(or (f foo)
    (g bar))

(if-let [result (f foo)]
  result
  (g bar))

Right, similar to how get works

But I get that in the above case the if-let should be used

ty everyone ❤️

you could use or there, it's safe to put the html-ok call inside the some-> chain unless db/page returns false

it's a question of style of course