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dominicm07:08:38

http://sogrady-media.redmonk.com/sogrady/files/2019/03/lang.rank_.119.png Weird to consider clojure 75% as popular as java :thinking_face: am I misreading?

dominicm11:08:30

What does it mean?

seancorfield15:08:14

In this case it means that there are disproportionately more Clojure questions on stack overflow than Java questions than the number of developers would suggest

dominicm15:08:33

Number of github projects is pretty big too though

seancorfield16:08:55

Clojure has a different type of community to Java...

simonkatz23:08:21

@dominicm Sorry for the late reply. I think the word “ranking” on the graph axes means that the languages are being ordered from 1 to 100 by popularity. Java in position 99-ish might be many times more popular than Clojure in position 75-ish.

dominicm06:08:43

Oh, duh, yeah that makes more sense. Yes, ranking, not number of projects 😂

Ben Hammond07:08:30

I always find it strange when folk describe their holidy as annual leave Why is it leave? Are they indentured?

mccraigmccraig10:08:47

perhaps their job comes with something like 25 days annual leave and 5 idgaf days, and they feel the need for the world to distinguish ?

dominicm07:08:06

it's because it's mandatory, sorry, no choice about it

dominicm07:08:33

I'd work if I could, but yanno, company policy

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Ben Hammond07:08:52

I'm on leave of absence is a strange way to say I'm on holiday

Ben Hammond07:08:49

passive voice vs active voice

dominicm07:08:06

And why does one choose passive voice? To remove themselves as the actor.

dominicm07:08:14

It's something being done to them, not something they are doing.

Ben Hammond07:08:30

yeah. I am indentured to my organisation

Ben Hammond07:08:25

oh I misread voice of your post; you meant it to be in quotation marks

Ben Hammond07:08:10

> They won't let me back in the building > I must be on leave

dominicm07:08:20

Oh, yes. Sorry, I was unclear 😄

dominicm07:08:31

I had a tone of voice when I said it out loud, it was very clear.

dominicm07:08:40

Or rather, that sentence is unclear. Wasn't my fault 😄

Ben Hammond07:08:45

the eternal story of the written word

jonpither07:08:58

In the US they have 'personal days' rather than saying I'm going to take a day off.

jonpither07:08:52

I'd work if I could, but I got some personal matter that requires immediate attention.

dominicm07:08:30

People say personal day even for holidays?

jonpither07:08:00

Maybe not for an outright vacation.

jonpither07:08:09

I was once in a Peacocking cubicle conversation where folks were grandstanding just how little vacation days they'd used up.

dominicm08:08:51

I wonder if that culture spreads in multi national companies

Conor08:08:21

I too love giant corporations and working for free, so when one of my coworkers wants a break I do their job for them

thomas08:08:35

At Big Blue UK the vast majority of people used up their holiday. The US might well have been different

yogidevbear09:08:01

That's the first time I've heard the phrase "Peacocking cubicle conversation"

yogidevbear09:08:42

And after some quick Googling, I now know what peacocking is picard-facepalm

thomas09:08:18

I'd be careful with Googling stuff like that... you never know what might turn up

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dominicm09:08:46

Don't Google "big Ben" either.

dominicm09:08:05

Learned that the hard way

Ben Hammond10:08:16

In dark times like these, infantile humour is very much called for

thomas11:08:30

you can google man(ual) pages for all the various unix commands... but don't google for 'man date' a colleague found out one day.

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dharrigan11:08:44

sigh the evil that is log4j and slf4j and classpaths working in disharmony...

dominicm12:08:20

I suppose by measure they are at least simple tools :thinking_face:

simonkatz23:08:21

@dominicm Sorry for the late reply. I think the word “ranking” on the graph axes means that the languages are being ordered from 1 to 100 by popularity. Java in position 99-ish might be many times more popular than Clojure in position 75-ish.