clojure-losangeles 2022-05-15

https://clojurians.slack.com/archives/C03RZRRMP/p1652578896935919

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@nate PS: I'm loving your group learning meetups — learned all about mount/integrate in this episode on kit, and all the commentary from @, as well. As well as the episodes on xtdb! Cc @taylor.jeremydavid https://youtu.be/utmrSswhhn0

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genekim19:05:45

(Was not expecting to learn about logback and undertow!)

genekim19:05:10

(“Everyone should stop using depstar, and use use tools.deps instead!” (Looking around to see who they're talking about. 😂😂😂. IT’S ON MY LIST, OK?!? 😂😂)

genekim19:05:12

@nate “Honeysql is my fave way of exploring SQL databases.” Holy cow. Have you see Ultorg? Seriously freaked out when I saw it. Here's the video: https://youtu.be/9hLkFq3AD5U

nate20:05:30

Oh yes! I just learned about it a little bit ago. I think from your tweets. It's on my list to explore soon.

nate20:05:12

And I need to blog about exploring with honeysql

genekim19:05:46

It's based on this guys PhD dissertation at MIT. Amazingly easy to use app (written in Swing, but you'd never guess, if you know what I mean.) Having a blast using it — already changing how I explore databases in the initial stages.

genekim19:05:24

Cc @seancorfield suspect you'd get a kick out of it too. I DMed them on Twitter, and he sent the install link. Highly recommended!!

genekim19:05:55

(And super response to feature requests! I asked if it number of rows could be shown easier — it's in the next version.)

genekim19:05:25

@seancorfield a magic wand wish: someday, can you show how one gets datify / nav working in portal in a screencast? I love the idea of it, but literally have no idea how to make that work, despite reading all the docs, and hearing you talk about it. I use JDBC.next and portal, but don't know how to string it all together to get that magical dynamic you describe. 🙏🙏🙏. Thank you!!!!

seancorfield19:05:33

I hate doing screencasts:grin:

seancorfield19:05:54

But "it just works" so I have a hard time explaining it to folks. I keep saying I'll Livestream some of my work one day

nate20:05:13

Perhaps at the next meetup? (no pressure 😉 )

seancorfield20:05:58

If I'd been in the country for the March meeting about Portal, I'd have definitely shown this off 😀

genekim20:05:59

FWIW, I just can’t even visualize in my head what it looks like when you say “it just works”. I have a vague image of my head of Stu showing how it worked in REBL and Datomic, but I didn’t fully understand what was being shown even then! 🙂. (Aside from the reaction of 🤯 and “I want it.” 🙂

seancorfield20:05:57

@U6VPZS1EK did this part of the docs help or not? https://cljdoc.org/d/com.github.seancorfield/next.jdbc/1.2.780/doc/datafy-nav-and-schema

seancorfield20:05:32

I wrote this after seeing Stu demo the feature https://corfield.org/blog/2018/12/03/datafy-nav/

genekim20:05:19

I’ve definitely read that several times — some more lightbulb flickering now. Ah. I think my problem is I’ve typically thrown the metadata away when I return the query results. Let me try it again!!! And if I get it working, I’ll post a video of it!!

genekim20:05:49

Thank you!!

seancorfield20:05:15

If you just tap> the result of execute! into Portal, then select a value in it for a foreign key and press enter, it will fetch that row.

seancorfield20:05:20

Like statusid : 42, it will fetch a row from the status table where id = 42

genekim20:05:47

(And FWIW, I saw the REBL presentation, and my mind was blown. But I’ve never actually fully understood how it works or actually seen in action outside of that presentation. So, it’s still a bit mystifying… This very much helps. I’ll give it a shot in the next couple of days!)

genekim01:05:22

I will try!!! 🎉🙏 Would be so fun!!

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