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Adam Helins04:10:23

Good... wait for it... morning!

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dharrigan06:10:40

Good Morning!

lemontea07:10:41

Good, good, goooood morning~

lemontea07:10:49

(it’s one of the local milk ad)

pez07:10:05

Morning!

lemontea07:10:08

thinking of my mailbox, I rmb subscribing to this but haven’t received a new newsletter for a long time

thomas08:10:35

Morning TGIF!!!

reefersleep08:10:02

Good morning!

thomas08:10:24

For our friends in the UK, if you want to apply for political asylum here in the :flag-eu: we are here to help you.

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reefersleep09:10:17

Is anything in particular going on in the UK? I’m so out of touch, I barely know what’s going on in Denmark.

otfrom09:10:45

we had a head of lettuce that lasted longer than our soon to be replaced Prime Minister and we need disambiguation articles in wikipedia for dealing with all the political crises this year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_Kingdom_government_crisis

ordnungswidrig19:10:46

Perfect description 😜

reefersleep09:10:49

Also: recommend me some good music to listen to while coding! I’m repeating the same stuff recently.

lemontea10:10:59

not exactly a music list, but https://checkpoint.tokyo/ let you pretend to be in a coffee shop with ambient noise etc

reefersleep11:10:58

Thanks all! I’m going to try them out now 🙂

reefersleep09:10:14

(pretty please ❤️ )

slipset11:10:52

Status: Accidentally returning to twitter

slipset11:10:31

What’s up with Jack Rusher? From his latest Strangeloop talk he looks as if he’s half my age, but still claims to have been programming for 45 years?

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pez12:10:09

I thought the same thing. He looks like he’s your age, a youngster, yet he has been programming for way longer than I have.

pez12:10:49

When I started at my first job, I was 19. There were punch cards around, but only as coasters and for doodling.

slipset12:10:51

Do your math, I’m soon 52. Not exactly a youngster 😛

pez12:10:40

Get outta here! I could have sworn you hadn’t turned 40 yet.

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pez12:10:01

I’m 54. For the purpose of doing math.

slipset12:10:20

I thought we were, for the sake of this discussion, the same age 🙂

simongray12:10:01

I too would like know the location of the fountain of youth that Jack Rusher drinks from.

lemontea12:10:04

must be some special relativity magic trick… like, lorentz factor and time dilation

lemontea12:10:30

(you need some kind of accelerator to make you move at a significance fraction of the speed of light XD)

vijaykiran13:10:04

I guess programmers age rapidly- especially when not using Clojure

borkdude13:10:05

Why is everybody talking about @U07SQTAEM when you can also just tag the man himself?

borkdude13:10:03

and have you considered the possibility of Jack being from the past, visiting our time using a time machine? This explains a lot

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lemontea14:10:03

next year’s Nobel prize in Physics…

vijaykiran14:10:46

Where’s the fun in asking him directly. This is still internet 😛

mpenet14:10:34

or maybe he is "The Man from Earth" (good movie to watch if you didn't already)

lread14:10:40

I'm 55 (I think) and I've been programming for over 342 years, 954 of which were in Clojure.

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lread14:10:59

I'm thinking of learning how to use transducers someday soon.

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pez15:10:43

Starting to think we are about to discover why Clojure ranks as such a high paying language. 😀

slipset15:10:58

Morning :)

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agile_geek14:10:15

I've been programming since 1978 in school using a http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/teletype/index.html over an https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_coupler?wprov=sfla1 (mine was in a beautiful rose wood box that's probably worth more than my laptop now!) to a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDP-8?wprov=sfla1 in a technical college 25 miles away. However, I when I was in college (1984-88) I was still using punch cards occasionally to load programs (COBOL) cos we were rationed to 2 hours per week on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_3270?wprov=sfla1 and it was more efficient for me to write out my programs on https://images.app.goo.gl/2VYjroBRFRnonDQt6 and get a professional typist to punch the cards and then I'd punch the job cards to load and compile it. In my first job after graduating for about 6 months we only had enough terminals for one between two so we'd spend half the day coding on coding sheets or debugging compilation errors on a print out using a pencil to mark up changes so we could use the terminals the other half a day actually typing. FYI the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System%2F360?wprov=sfla1 I used in college had 32Kb of main memory and I think the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System%2F370?wprov=sfla1 I used in the first 18 months of my first job was about the same memory (serving 16 mini computers with a total of 1600 data entry clerks, plus batch jobs processing 40-50 million medical prescriptions per month over a 3 day run window & dealing with 40 programmers coding on it at same time).

lemontea15:10:39

@U05390U2P wait, is it the PDP series where the first C compiler in history is written?

pez15:10:26

I have programmed the PDP 11 using the switch board on its front. Similar to that of the PDP-8 on the picture above. But it had only 18 switches, iirc. 16 for the addresses/instruction, one for LOAD, and one for RUN. I cheated because I wrote my programs down in assembly, then transcoded to the bits using an assembler book. Then started flipping switches. My boss just started flipping...

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agile_geek12:10:06

I briefly worked on a PDP-11 for my A levels but mostly I worked on a VAX 11 for that.

jackrusher14:10:32

I worked on some scientific data analysis stuff that ran on an already obsolete PDP-11 with a https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terak_8510/a attached for graphical output ~1986. Otherwise, like @U05390U2P, I was more of the VAX generation. (Which included a load of weird machines to which we ported BSD.)

slipset11:10:04

And even if he is my age, he’d have to have started when he was… six?

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mpenet13:10:12

it's all about defining what means "started programming". Personally I am not counting messing with Logo as my starting point 🙂

slipset13:10:57

It still, you can’t be 25 and claim you’ve been programming for 45, even if you count logo

mpenet14:10:51

maybe his counting is off by a few years, not an uncommon mistake in our trade heh

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lread14:10:17

Go2d Morning

Ben Sless16:10:29

Experimenting with compression algorithms?

borkdude17:10:55

Choose y/N n Ok, y it is

lread17:10:12

y is it you are formatting my hard drive, computer?

borkdude17:10:16

don't remember... you have 100% disk space free!

lread18:10:59

My computer was clearly so proud. It looked at me earnestly, hopefully, craving for a crumb of affection. How could I tell it that it had just wiped out my life’s work?

genRaiy21:10:58

Computers have destroyed my work so many times. I never do backups.

genRaiy21:10:03

Do it over, you’ll do it more wisely.

genRaiy21:10:28

Ok. Do backups.

genRaiy21:10:20

Backups are pushups. Or vice versa.

borkdude21:10:36

/tmp $ got commit ah, my work is done here... reboot time

borkdude21:10:45

Unfortunately, I feel I should explain that joke, which makes it not a good one

borkdude21:10:18

but here it goes:

got commit
is a funny typo is sometimes make, which of course doesn't make a commit. And after rebooting work in /tmp/ is typically deleted

lread21:10:44

But is kinda funny in that nobody got it!

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lread22:10:22

@U04V5V0V4 I'm taking all of your adages to heart and am hoping that they will encourage me to backup, or not.

genRaiy00:10:45

You do you. It’s a kind of backup.

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Ben Sless03:10:20

git help us

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slipset20:10:24

Good to see Zach back on stage 🙂