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We have solid metal ones at our office, they do not budge an inch. No idea what the brand is. I can look it up.

At home I have the bekant too, am pretty happy with it.

I have bekant as well, it is pretty wobbly.. perhaps upgrading the cardboard top to heavier one could help?

I've been using it for 6 years now. It's ok-ish, but as I'm working on it all day long, I'm willing to pay for a full upgrade. The Jarvis looks more steady overall and the bamboo top looks nicer too. But maybe I'm just sensitive to their marketing ;)

One of the design differences is that bekant uses thin leg below and thick leg at the top, which is known to be more wobbly

I've got a WINI desk and it's sturdy. Bought it used on http://ebay-kleinanzeigen.de. It wasn't cheap but I guess I could have bargained more agressively. There should be plenty of used out there right now with lots of businesses closing shop.

Steelcase is another good brand

this is an insane price https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/73x-schreibtisch-steelcase-kurbel-hoehenverstellbar-buero/2174184638-93-3526

I love my steelcase chair, but haven't seen many desk options

I bought the Amazon cheapo one. My desk devices cable management is poor and so I don't even use the standing feature 😅 Really enjoying the draftman's chair I bought though.

I've a Jarvis base that is several years old with a 1 inch pine top that I bought from the local hardware store. I have no complaints with stability though occasionally it's safety mechanism will stop it from lifting so you have to press the button again.

Can definitely recommend this one... At a going outta biz sale, my wife scored a HermanMiller desk. Was crazy expensive, too. But it's solid. I believe the owner of the former biz said it was a custom size; it's about 5ft or 150cm wide. My 2c, investing in a good work env. makes all the difference. Good luck with your search!

I have been using a Jarvis also for the past 4 years and is still 100% stiff

Mine is made by progressive desk (with a desktop from Ikea) and it doesn't wobble at all

I got one from 'KSH' the one I have isn't there anymore through. I have an 1,80 broad one, and it's quite sturdy. They can be a bit pricey though. https://www.ksh.nl/o/kantoormeubelen/bureaus/zit-sta-bureaus/

I have the same Ikea table. It is a bit wobbly. I have two wooden sticks to stabilize the table: one for the sitting position and one for the standing position. A bit of a hack but it works quite nicely.

... a bit of a hack, but the table won't wobble and I don't have to buy a more expensive table. 😀

Good idea, I might do the same :)

Can you post a pic of the sticks?

@U76D9RZRR Is this you? :) https://www.reddit.com/r/IKEA/comments/gwei5j/comment/idearfu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Another person in that thread says that pushing the legs sideways a bit also helps

Nope. I am ClojureJamppa. 😀

A simple solution for a simple problem. 😀

I added some foam at the ends of the stick and fastened it with duct tape to provide the friction to the stick. The stick is about 100 degrees relative to the table (not 90). So, I just lower the table to the sitting position and then stabilize the table with the stick.

The stick.

@UM1PCCLNN and @U04V15CAJ ☝️

Haha great. You also made wood bricks to support your monitors?

This is probably my biggest annoyance, the wobbling monitor... :)

Yep. They wobbled, too. Not any more. 😀

I have monitor arms for my monitors, mostly for that reason.

I went looking for a desk at an office furniture shop and I noticed the monitors were easily wobbling with monitor arms too

It depends on the arm. Mine are pretty sturdy, but not that flexible.

@U04V15CAJ Is it a mechanical one or a motorized one? When I was in the market a few years ago I couldn't find any good motorized one in Belgium. All reviews were ultimately saying that this or this model was wobbly. I eventually bought the mechanical Bekant one, hand powered I mean, and haven't had any issue so far. Although it is less convenient, I'll admit it.

I own the Jarvis and I can attest to its great stability. Of course when you extend all the way up to, say, ~80cm, it will wobble a little but that's to be expected I would say. For sitting it's certainly very stable. It's quality stuff!

it really depends, but you might start with gnome boxes (https://apps.gnome.org/app/org.gnome.Boxes/)

I run my vms on a separate headless machine using libvirt, mixing libvirt's command line tools, and the virt-manager gui (running on my laptop)

I’ve never heard of either of those! Thanks for sharing @U0NCTKEV8!

I know that virtualizing macOS has historically been "forbidden". I think they've recently updated their policy to slightly improve the cloud situation, but I thought running macOS in a virtual machine was still not officially supported when running locally.

libvirt actually runs vms using qemu-kvm and for that matter I think gnome-boxes does too

oh, it is kosher to virtualize osx as long as it is on mac hardware

for macs the os license is tied to the hardware

Good to know, thanks!

An irony might be that one of the reasons I’m moving to Linux is that Apple says my iMac is too old to run the latest macOS. But I expect a VM will allow me to run the latest macOS version.

I don't think you'll be able so make newer MacOS run on an old iMac... I mean, I have a fairly recent and fast computer, and I am emulating a Mac... and it's quite slow, honestly. Anyway, there's also quickemu - it's a one-click install MacOS if you want to try 😄

Or, you can try to make it work on VirtualBox. It's what I prefer, honestly, to virtualize things on Linux

Thanks @U3Y18N0UC!

I use vmware workstation. works great

for the occasions I need to spin up a windows instance

cool, thanks @U11EL3P9U!

you're most welcome 🙂

On Linux I've had good experience with QEMU/KVM for just about anything, including OS X VMs. (I have a OS X 10.6 VM running on Fedora Linux that works this way). Configuring these kind of VMs is very difficult, however. But it's very rewarding in the end

Thanks @U0479UCF48H!

Latest MacOS require T2 security chip I think (which is the main reason why old iMac cannot run it). This might also affect your ability to run it in a VM

Thanks for the tips all! It was much easier than I thought it would be to get Windows 10 running. I used https://virt-manager.org/ to help me along my way.

Maybe I just won't bother with a macOS VM.

Follow up: Qemu was easy peasy for Windows. But... switched to VirtualBox for easier peasier setup of sharing folders and clipboard. And... after finally figuring out how to get my hands on a macOS iso, I installed Big Sur under VirtualBox. Big Sur probably won't perform very well, but at least I can do any ad-hoc testing when I need to.