looks promising, will try it, thanks!

Yeah, should do it, but I found this same issue on clojure-lsp project itself... There we were merging both deps.edn and bb deps, and bb had a old promesa lib and was overriding the deps.edn when clojure-lsp merge

Maybe we should have smarter ways to handle that or a more clear setting

Because clojure-lsp just concat both classpaths to consider during development

And then find definition and other analysis things would use one of those 2 jars, which is by luck atm

i tried with

{:project-specs [{:project-path "deps.edn"}]}

LSP classpath lookup failed when running ``. Some features may not work properly if ignored.
Error: No value supplied for key: :dir

Perhaps deps.edn should come last in the concatenated classpath

@rahul080327 that setting is one of the oldest settings, you need to add a classpath-cmd along with it

... why do you also need a classpath command

Yeah, maybe @U04V15CAJ but sounds like a workaround yet

then what is :project-path for if you have to supply the classpath-cmd yourself

Yep, that setting is not ideal Imo, is a bit old, but the idea was to run that classpath-cmd command if found a project-path file

🤷

I think we can now think in a better user API and deprecate that onr

but you can also only just run classpath-cmd without a path right?

maybe we could default to ["clojure" "-Spath"] ?

I always found it confusing as well since joined the project

Yes, we could tune defaults

The default for deps.edn ATM is running clojure -A:dev:test -Spath

yeah tried it and it works

Feel free to open a issue to improve that behavior

great! thanks! will try to PR it too if its a worthy thing too!

Sure, thanks

I have this too. I have a legacy project that uses lein and deps, but lein errors out because of failing to get some artifacts, so I get a classpath error taking over my vim editor when I load up a file, asking if I want to ignore or retry (I choose ignore)

Yeah, that is suppose to happen, not sure if there is anything to improve besides what we mentioned already

I'll add project-path to my config

https://github.com/clojure-lsp/clojure-lsp/issues/1366

oh that's new

are you using lsp-mode or eglot?

lsp-mode I believe

How do I definitively check??

run lsp-clojure-server-info and paste here please

LSP :: {:final-settings
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  :document-formatting? true,
  :source-paths
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   "/Users/cue/projects/althea/dev-resources"
   "/Users/cue/projects/althea/test/clojure"],
  :text-document-sync-kind nil,
  :project-specs
  ({:project-path "project.clj",
    :classpath-cmd
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   {:project-path "deps.edn",
    :classpath-cmd ["/usr/local/bin/clojure" "-A:test:dev" "-Spath"]}
   {:project-path "build.boot",
    :classpath-cmd ["boot" "show" "--fake-classpath"]}
   {:project-path "shadow-cljs.edn",
    :classpath-cmd
    ["/Users/cue/.nvm/versions/node/v15.12.0/bin/npx"
     "shadow-cljs"
     "classpath"]}
   {:project-path "bb.edn",
    :classpath-cmd
    ["/usr/local/bin/bb" "print-deps" "--format" "classpath"]}),
  :dependency-scheme "jar",
  :show-docs-arity-on-same-line? true,
  :document-range-formatting? true},
 :classpath
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   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/commons-io/commons-io/2.10.0/commons-io-2.10.0.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/ring/ring-servlet/1.9.5/ring-servlet-1.9.5.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/compojure/compojure/1.7.0/compojure-1.7.0.jar"
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   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/com/fasterxml/jackson/dataformat/jackson-dataformat-smile/2.13.3/jackson-dataformat-smile-2.13.3.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/clojure/core.async/1.5.648/core.async-1.5.648.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/clojure/tools.analyzer/1.1.0/tools.analyzer-1.1.0.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/crypto-random/crypto-random/1.2.1/crypto-random-1.2.1.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/crypto-equality/crypto-equality/1.0.0/crypto-equality-1.0.0.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/medley/medley/1.4.0/medley-1.4.0.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/ring/ring-jetty-adapter/1.9.5/ring-jetty-adapter-1.9.5.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/commons-fileupload/commons-fileupload/1.4/commons-fileupload-1.4.jar"
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   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/clojure/core.cache/1.0.225/core.cache-1.0.225.jar"
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   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/clojure/spec.alpha/0.3.218/spec.alpha-0.3.218.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/javax/servlet/javax.servlet-api/3.1.0/javax.servlet-api-3.1.0.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/eclipse/jetty/jetty-server/9.4.44.v20210927/jetty-server-9.4.44.v20210927.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/refactor-nrepl/refactor-nrepl/3.5.2/refactor-nrepl-3.5.2.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/commons-codec/commons-codec/1.15/commons-codec-1.15.jar"
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   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/clojure/clojure/1.11.1/clojure-1.11.1.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/ns-tracker/ns-tracker/0.4.0/ns-tracker-0.4.0.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/clojure/tools.namespace/0.2.11/tools.namespace-0.2.11.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/eclipse/jetty/jetty-util/9.4.44.v20210927/jetty-util-9.4.44.v20210927.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/clojure/core.specs.alpha/0.2.62/core.specs.alpha-0.2.62.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/com/stuartsierra/component/1.1.0/component-1.1.0.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/com/stuartsierra/dependency/1.0.0/dependency-1.0.0.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/ring/ring-codec/1.2.0/ring-codec-1.2.0.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/com/taoensso/truss/1.6.0/truss-1.6.0.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/clojure/tools.macro/0.1.5/tools.macro-0.1.5.jar"
   "/Users/cue/projects/althea/src/clojure"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/cheshire/cheshire/5.11.0/cheshire-5.11.0.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/ring/ring-core/1.9.5/ring-core-1.9.5.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/aero/aero/1.1.6/aero-1.1.6.jar"
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   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/nrepl/nrepl/0.9.0/nrepl-0.9.0.jar"
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   "/Users/cue/projects/althea/resources"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/clj-tuple/clj-tuple/0.2.2/clj-tuple-0.2.2.jar"
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   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/com/fasterxml/jackson/core/jackson-core/2.13.3/jackson-core-2.13.3.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/instaparse/instaparse/1.4.8/instaparse-1.4.8.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/ring/ring-devel/1.9.5/ring-devel-1.9.5.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/clj-stacktrace/clj-stacktrace/0.2.8/clj-stacktrace-0.2.8.jar"
   "/Users/cue/projects/althea/target/classes"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/clojure/data.codec/0.1.1/data.codec-0.1.1.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/ring/ring-mock/0.4.0/ring-mock-0.4.0.jar"
   "/Users/cue/projects/althea/dev-resources"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/clojure/tools.analyzer.jvm/1.2.2/tools.analyzer.jvm-1.2.2.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/clout/clout/2.2.1/clout-2.2.1.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/clojure/data.priority-map/1.1.0/data.priority-map-1.1.0.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/eclipse/jetty/jetty-http/9.4.44.v20210927/jetty-http-9.4.44.v20210927.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/ring/ring/1.9.5/ring-1.9.5.jar"
   "/Users/cue/projects/althea/test/clojure"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/com/fasterxml/jackson/dataformat/jackson-dataformat-cbor/2.13.3/jackson-dataformat-cbor-2.13.3.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/criterium/criterium/0.4.6/criterium-0.4.6.jar"
   "/Users/cue/.m2/repository/org/clojure/core.memoize/1.0.253/core.memoize-1.0.253.jar"},
 :cljfmt-raw "{}",
 :client-settings
 {:dependency-scheme "jar",
  :show-docs-arity-on-same-line? true,
  :text-document-sync-kind nil,
  :source-paths nil,
  :source-aliases nil,
  :cljfmt-config-path ".cljfmt.edn",
  :document-formatting? true,
  :document-range-formatting? true},
 :project-root-uri "file:///Users/cue/projects/althea",
 :port "NREPL only available on :debug profile (`bb debug-cli`)",
 :project-settings {},
 :server-version "2022.10.05-16.39.51",
 :clj-kondo-version "2022.10.05",
 :log-path
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 :classpath-settings nil}

Looks good, I'd suggest upgrading clojure-lsp to latest though, but probably not the issue

so, that error message seems a emacs one, maybe you could try toggle-debug-on-error and repro the issue

it should print the stacktrace of the error

Hmmm… thanks for the look … I’ll see what’s up.

clojure-lsp --version clojure-lsp 2022.10.05-16.39.51 clj-kondo 2022.10.05

latest version is 2022.11.03

I have the latest version and… nope… same problem

will not get references.

Did you try my toggle-debug-on-error suggestion?

ah… one moment.

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (cl-no-applicable-method project-root (clojure . "~/projects/althea/"))
  signal(cl-no-applicable-method (project-root (clojure . "~/projects/althea/")))
  cl-no-applicable-method(#s(cl--generic :name project-root :dispatches (((&context . project--within-roots-fallback) #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name cl--generic-eql-generalizer :priority 100 :tagcode-function #f(compiled-function (name &rest _) #<bytecode -0x1cba94bb2a238cfc>) :specializers-function #f(compiled-function (tag &rest _) #<bytecode -0xc2b528c28554d5a>)) #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name cl--generic-t-generalizer :priority 0 :tagcode-function #f(compiled-function (name &rest _) #<bytecode -0x1cba9713a96764e4>) :specializers-function #f(compiled-function (tag &rest _) #<bytecode -0x2b7bed08469105e>))) (0 #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name cl--generic-head-generalizer :priority 80 :tagcode-function #f(compiled-function (name &rest _) #<bytecode 0x3a14a44564bea75>) :specializers-function #f(compiled-function (tag &rest _) #<bytecode -0xc2b528db576651a>)) #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name cl--generic-t-generalizer :priority 0 :tagcode-function #f(compiled-function (name &rest _) #<bytecode -0x1cba9713a96764e4>) :specializers-function #f(compiled-function (tag &rest _) #<bytecode -0x2b7bed08469105e>)))) :method-table (#s(cl--generic-method :specializers ((head vc)) :qualifiers nil :uses-cnm nil :function #f(compiled-function (project) #<bytecode 0x6b9e8a8ac27aec5>)) #s(cl--generic-method :specializers ((head transient)) :qualifiers nil :uses-cnm nil :function #f(compiled-function (project) #<bytecode 0x6b9e8a8ac27aec5>)) #s(cl--generic-method :specializers (t ((&context . project--within-roots-fallback) eql nil)) :qualifiers nil :uses-cnm nil :function #f(compiled-function (project) #<bytecode 0x6a7fc5ce8bb6479>))) :options nil) (clojure . "~/projects/althea/"))
  apply(cl-no-applicable-method #s(cl--generic :name project-root :dispatches (((&context . project--within-roots-fallback) #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name cl--generic-eql-generalizer :priority 100 :tagcode-function #f(compiled-function (name &rest _) #<bytecode -0x1cba94bb2a238cfc>) :specializers-function #f(compiled-function (tag &rest _) #<bytecode -0xc2b528c28554d5a>)) #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name cl--generic-t-generalizer :priority 0 :tagcode-function #f(compiled-function (name &rest _) #<bytecode -0x1cba9713a96764e4>) :specializers-function #f(compiled-function (tag &rest _) #<bytecode -0x2b7bed08469105e>))) (0 #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name cl--generic-head-generalizer :priority 80 :tagcode-function #f(compiled-function (name &rest _) #<bytecode 0x3a14a44564bea75>) :specializers-function #f(compiled-function (tag &rest _) #<bytecode -0xc2b528db576651a>)) #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name cl--generic-t-generalizer :priority 0 :tagcode-function #f(compiled-function (name &rest _) #<bytecode -0x1cba9713a96764e4>) :specializers-function #f(compiled-function (tag &rest _) #<bytecode -0x2b7bed08469105e>)))) :method-table (#s(cl--generic-method :specializers ((head vc)) :qualifiers nil :uses-cnm nil :function #f(compiled-function (project) #<bytecode 0x6b9e8a8ac27aec5>)) #s(cl--generic-method :specializers ((head transient)) :qualifiers nil :uses-cnm nil :function #f(compiled-function (project) #<bytecode 0x6b9e8a8ac27aec5>)) #s(cl--generic-method :specializers (t ((&context . project--within-roots-fallback) eql nil)) :qualifiers nil :uses-cnm nil :function #f(compiled-function (project) #<bytecode 0x6a7fc5ce8bb6479>))) :options nil) (clojure . "~/projects/althea/"))
  #f(compiled-function (&rest args) #<bytecode 0x31e900ad1d7e41f>)((clojure . "~/projects/althea/"))
  apply(#f(compiled-function (&rest args) #<bytecode 0x31e900ad1d7e41f>) (clojure . "~/projects/althea/") nil)
  #f(compiled-function (arg &rest args) #<bytecode 0xaa6b77541a28fae>)((clojure . "~/projects/althea/"))
  apply(#f(compiled-function (arg &rest args) #<bytecode 0xaa6b77541a28fae>) (clojure . "~/projects/althea/"))
  project-root((clojure . "~/projects/althea/"))
  project-roots((clojure . "~/projects/althea/"))
  #f(compiled-function (project) #<bytecode 0x6a7fc5ce8bb6479>)((clojure . "~/projects/althea/"))
  apply(#f(compiled-function (project) #<bytecode 0x6a7fc5ce8bb6479>) (clojure . "~/projects/althea/") nil)
  #f(compiled-function (arg &rest args) #<bytecode 0xa21f374c5d4bbee>)((clojure . "~/projects/althea/"))
  apply(#f(compiled-function (arg &rest args) #<bytecode 0xa21f374c5d4bbee>) (clojure . "~/projects/althea/"))
  project-root((clojure . "~/projects/althea/"))
  xref--project-root((clojure . "~/projects/althea/"))
  xref--analyze((#s(xref-item :summary #("(defn create-my-cogent" 0 1 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-1-face) fontified t) 1 5 (face font-lock-keyword-face fontified t) 5 6 (fontified t) 6 22 (face (font-lock-function-name-face highlight) fontified t)) :location #s(xref-file-location :file "/Users/cue/projects/althea/src/clojure/althea/app...." :line 16 :column 6)) #s(xref-item :summary #("  (component/start (reset! my-cogent (create-my-co..." 0 2 (fontified t) 2 3 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-2-face) fontified t) 3 12 (face font-lock-type-face fontified t) 12 19 (fontified t) 19 20 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-3-face) fontified t) 20 37 (fontified t) 37 38 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-4-face) fontified t) 38 54 (face highlight fontified t) 54 55 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-4-face) fontified t) 55 56 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-3-face) fontified t) 56 57 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-2-face) fontified t)) :location #s(xref-file-location :file "/Users/cue/projects/althea/src/clojure/althea/app...." :line 34 :column 38))))
  xref--show-xref-buffer(#f(compiled-function (&rest _) #<bytecode 0x6a0c468a824bd24>) ((window . #<window 3 on app.clj>) (display-action)))
  lsp-show-xrefs((#s(xref-item :summary #("(defn create-my-cogent" 0 1 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-1-face) fontified t) 1 5 (face font-lock-keyword-face fontified t) 5 6 (fontified t) 6 22 (face (font-lock-function-name-face highlight) fontified t)) :location #s(xref-file-location :file "/Users/cue/projects/althea/src/clojure/althea/app...." :line 16 :column 6)) #s(xref-item :summary #("  (component/start (reset! my-cogent (create-my-co..." 0 2 (fontified t) 2 3 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-2-face) fontified t) 3 12 (face font-lock-type-face fontified t) 12 19 (fontified t) 19 20 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-3-face) fontified t) 20 37 (fontified t) 37 38 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-4-face) fontified t) 38 54 (face highlight fontified t) 54 55 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-4-face) fontified t) 55 56 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-3-face) fontified t) 56 57 (face (rainbow-delimiters-depth-2-face) fontified t)) :location #s(xref-file-location :file "/Users/cue/projects/althea/src/clojure/althea/app...." :line 34 :column 38))) nil t)
  lsp-clojure--show-references(#<hash-table equal 3/3 0x1fea694cbaf5>)
  lsp--execute-command(#<hash-table equal 3/3 0x1fea694cbaf5>)
  #f(compiled-function () (interactive nil) #<bytecode -0x1c38a4c4dc09f980>)()
  funcall-interactively(#f(compiled-function () (interactive nil) #<bytecode -0x1c38a4c4dc09f980>))
  call-interactively(#f(compiled-function () (interactive nil) #<bytecode -0x1c38a4c4dc09f980>) nil nil)
  command-execute(#f(compiled-function () (interactive nil) #<bytecode -0x1c38a4c4dc09f980>))

👀

right, so it's coming from lsp-clojure--show-references a custom function I created just to support clicking on lens and finding their references

maybe there is something to improve there as it's a little bit hacky

does it work if you call lsp-find-references manually instead of clicking on the lens for that symbol?

Nope… doesn’t work with that.

any error?

from the stack it seems server is returning the references correctly, so maybe it's some issue on lsp-mode side/your lsp-mode installation

hmmm…

(I am having an issue pasting the debug output to this chat…)

keeps asking me if I want to format and I say no. I am using a code block. 🤷:skin-tone-5: Hmm…

try uploading as a file

Hey you are at Nubank…!

Yep, nubanker here :)

so it seems something with your emacs/lsp-mode... any function that uses xref for showing on a little buffer the results it crashes

I'd suggest reinstalling lsp-mode or recompiling, not sure how you use emacs

Hmm… how many ways are there to use emacs. Hmm…

What Nubank office are you close to? (working out of)

I work from SP! I meant, how do you install packages? via doom-emacs, spacemacs, vanila with straight.el etc

package-list-packages

[melpa]

In my experience, it's pretty common to have bad compilation packages... I suggest reinstalling it and make sure remove it completly before reinstall

I am re installing and cleaning out… one moment.

okay so started emacs up again and got

Symbol's function definition is void: transient-define-prefix

To ensure normal operation, you should investigate and remove the
cause of the error in your initialization file.  Start Emacs with...

@U06T4ATTJ Try deleting ~/.emacs.d/elpa and restart emacs, this solved a huge problem for me a while ago

I suggest using straight.el in the future for managing your packages, it's what doomemacs and I think spacemacs use and it's pretty reliable

I use Prelude.

I am nuking elpa… 🤞 oh boy. one sec

I also use prelude

I keep my entire elpa in git, since 2013, works like a charm ;)

But… now you are suggesting I nuke it… 😕 right

yes, but since I have it in git, I can always go back. not sure what solution you have haha

I haven't had to go back for years though

you could just copy your elpa to elpa.bak

I haven’t either till now… been using this emacs thing since 1991

Yeah, I’m old 👴:skin-tone-5:

91, I was still learning GW Basic back then

I was not even born 😂 I'm surprised how much time one can use the same editor, Emacs is awesome.. I hope I use for long years too

Best thing since 1976 (when emacs was created)

So… when I nuke elpa and fire up emacs it is going to go out and fetch a gagillion packages… Hmm…

as expected

indeed… now I am facing the cruft of 31 years….

Emacs-x86_64-10_14[26378:2071973] It's not legal to call -layoutSubtreeIfNeeded on a view which is already being laid out.  If you are implementing the view's -layout method, you can call -[super layout] instead. Break on void _NSDetectedLayoutRecursion(void) to debug.  This will be logged only once.  This may break in the future.

Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading '/Users/cue/.emacs.d/init.el':

File is missing: Cannot open load file, No such file or directory, ns-auto-titlebar

To ensure normal operation, you should investigate and remove the
cause of the error in your initialization file.  Start Emacs with
the '--debug-init' option to view a complete error backtrace. Disable showing Disable logging

<sigh>

@UKFSJSM38 you still have that basic emacs lsp config that people can try documented somewhere? this helped me tremendously when debugging an issue last time

@U06T4ATTJ hope you made a backup

☝️ been around too long not to make back ups… got everything tgz’ed before hand 😉

well remembered, https://emacs-lsp.github.io/lsp-mode/tutorials/clojure-guide/#basic-configurationyou meant?

BTW I need to update that tutorial, clojure-lsp has some many things more :)

yes

@U06T4ATTJ I tested with an empty emacs config + that linked config once to verify that clojure-lsp worked and wasn't messed up by anything else

(and then it turned out that deleting my elpa cruft solved it)

Pondering on what route to take with this house keeping. Indeed… let me sort this. I’ll circle back - Thanks for the help, you guys rock.