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need to start working on a way to get support for the massive amount of time I put into figwheel and devcards ... continuing as I am is not sustainable
The features I currently have planned will easily take a full year of full time programming.
@bhauman: http://bountysource.com is what funds CIDER and Clojars. @luke went the route of kickstarter for Arachne
@agile_geek: thanks, yeah, I ultimately may build my own custom thing... because I like doing this stuff and working on interaction design
anyone notice a big slowdown in reload perf from 0.5.2 -> 0.5.4-4 ? (this is on windows)
well when I make a change and save, it takes 5-10 seconds to show the dialog in the bottom left, and it used to be super fast
bhauman: wondering how successful it would be to simply put a price-tag on figwheel/devcards used in a commercial setting, to do something what Colin did with Cursive (yours is open-source, which is probably more tricky in this sense)
@bhauman: Is there anything as far as community support / low hanging fruit on either of them that would help alleviate the pressure of the current versions of them to free up more time for the exciting stuff?
@shaun-mahood: community support is/and would be great, but this isn't my current challenge
IMO raising money via kickstarter/bountysource is a big distraction for a single dev, the time could be better spent on actual products
my current challenge is finding funding to move forward and make figwheel what it could be
and to know that I'm not being crazy about the opportunity cost of working on this stuff full time
@darwin you have a point of course, and I think if I did anything, that would be secondary
people are willing to pay for “downloadable” apps they install, or for account to websites, not much for OS libraries
for example, the live-reload guy made a cmd-line tool (open-source) and then started selling a shiny Mac app on top of it (via Mac Store I think)
btw. I wrote XRefresh back in 2007, my first stab at live reloading 😉 http://xrefresh.binaryage.com
A few models that I would pitch in towards, either personally or through work - Patreon style monthly contribution with some sort of communication of funding needs and long-ish term roadmap - Corporate support contract (with reasonable expectations that the product will continue to be developed and issues will be considered but no expectation of priority support) - Bounty contributions to look at particular issues that the community desires (such as getting devcards to work with re-frame) or towards a particular future goal (I assume this is the bounty source model?) - One time consulting for a set number of hours to look at existing projects to help with config and setup for new or existing projects
Thanks! These are all very reasonable/helpful suggestions and your willingness to help is very good to hear ...
Hopefully you'll be able to go pretty far with just the info that it these projects need some financial support - my assumption has always been that you are just stupid productive in your after work time (David Nolen style)
No problem, thanks for saving me all that loading time 🙂 One other person it might be worth talking to is Mike Drogalis, pretty sure he took Onyx full time a little while ago I think through a contracting and support model - no idea how it's going or if there's any overlap, but he might at least have some advice that would help.