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Hi, I have a plan and to hear voice from you all. How about to setting up a new channel eg: #talents For those who are open for opportunity now, you can stay in channel, and when you are quit such status, you must leaving the channel ! next time, go over the same ! and I’am very appreciate teams who take clojure as their first productivity tool stack, and setting up this for startups to grow their dev teams with speed and quality. it is just my proposal and feel free to leave a comment!
Anyone is free to create a channel and advertise it (maybe in #C0CB40N8K) but I don't really understand how this channel would be different from folks posting in #C05006WDW or #C06B40HMY that they are available for work? (although we don't really want to promote that since it might drown out companies that are hiring)...
And -- warning -- if you self-promote, it will actually put a lot of potential employers off (which may be a cultural thing but it's worth mentioning).
thank you @U04V70XH6, I think you are right. I’ll think more about it !
@U04V70XH6 Why self-promote is off-putting?
Seems to me the first reply to this post gives a reason for creating a separate channel, to separate companies promoting jobs from engineers highlighting they are available for work (avoids drowning out jobs) So an #available-for-hire channel would help in that respect. I wonder which is more detrimental to getting a job, posting a message saying you are available (promoting yourself) or a company not knowing you are available or even exist? I assume most companies look on LinkedIn for Clojure staff (although there are costs for more detailed searches) or they use a recruitment company. Or they scan GitHub (which seems to be what many recruitment companies do now) I have only had one company reach out to me directly and they said they weren't sure about doing so as they didn't know if contact would be welcome.
I tend to find the companies myself or look at the ads myself. IMO recruiters tend to scam and cold-call messages from companies feel like spam that simply goes to hundreds of people at the same time (even if they've modified their bots to include my name). Those messages never ask "hey, we're this company and we'd like to know what you're up to" but instead they give a job ad (and it's somewhat putting off even if it's correctly matched with my profile). If they include a job ad link then they don't ever ask "what are you up to?". But then companies don't reply to candidates and so on. This is an awkward process both ways. IMO you should create the channel to see what happens
my original purpose to plan to do this is to provide a precisely matching place for #jobs and #talents
sorry , it seems slack channel is not convenient to do this, people need join a channel before him/her can talking
From a moderation p.o.v. we have a hard enough time getting recruiters to post in #C05006WDW and #C06B40HMY and not spam other channels. Adding a new channel around hiring would require us admins to: • update the default channels people join (so they'd even know that new channel exists) • update the welcome message and supporting information that we point people to in order to communicate how to behave and where to post things appropriately • start policing an extra channel to prevent (clueless) recruiters from clogging up that new channel • let existing people know about the new channel and explain why it exists If you're available for work, look in #C05006WDW and #C06B40HMY for open positions that are posted. Some people do occasionally post to those channels that they are looking for work -- but I think that's a bit pointless: either apply to one of the posted jobs here or find other places where Clojure jobs are posted and apply through those channels. Saying "I'm available!" isn't going to magically create a new job that hasn't already been posted here, for the most part.