Poll time! Who thinks Conjure develop is looking good and should be cut as a stable release, replacing the master branch? (🚀) And who thinks there's more to do before it's ready for day to day use, what do you need? (🛠️) Any beta testing right now is hugely appreciated! I want to know about glaring issues ASAP.

I'm still on Conjure Classic 🙂

But happy to make the switch when you want testers 🙂

Perhaps I should just switch now - probably too late for testing and cutting a release?

The demo I'm going to put in the readme: https://asciinema.org/a/325517

I should probably start another chat channel at some point that's not so tied to clojurians slack :thinking_face: I hate losing history here. Could do gitter or something eventually.

I wish the alternatives had decent mobile clients.

Yeah, there's no great solution. Gone are the days of IRC 😭 although we could always have an IRC home somewhere. I would just like something with infinite history and a client that doesn't grind my laptop to a halt.

Gitter has IRC bridging.

I'm okay still being here all the time too, I just want to give people options to interact and ask questions.

I'm testing it out now with another community. .

Ah nice!

Discord is one of my favs for communities, but it's a bit heavyweight, like Slack.

Discord is decent but notifications are broken on iOS (at least they are for me). That's not a huge issue, though. And they're only broken inasmuch as they don't clear.

I like IRC just because it's so open but Discord is a good alternative that doesn't have some of the drawbacks of Slack.

No rush, but yeah, I'll consider a gitter + IRC combo or something for the future.

I think I'll avoid changing the code for a little bit, just to let everyone test it (please try to break it). If you get the HUD or log into weird states or evals just stop working please let me know. Barring any showstoppers I think this will be the commit I release! Then I'll crack on with quality of life improvements, features and language clients! I'll re-share the poll for visibility.

Made a gitter room if anyone's interested! https://gitter.im/Olical/conjure

meh

I rarely use gitter - sometimes for spring stuff, but can't recall last time I was there.

The connection is super fast

load vim and bang, connected.

So

nrepl

it sorta hangs at the prompt

I press return a few times in the repl and I don't get a prompt back - now of course, this is not an issue with conjure, just nrepl, but is this observable by others?

Hmm I haven't seen that, but then again, I don't really type in the terminal

Another lib getting in the way like rebel?

maybe

I'll strip it all the way back

that's with nothing but nrepl running

I pressed return a few times at the user prompt

I had a bit of a delay but it worked eventually!

Right, I've firing up an nrepl in code now

when I load up clj

so I have rebel readline and nrepl now

Ohhh nice! Best of both worlds!

Funnily enough I was watching that episode(s) the other day

You know in the log buffer, if you eval, the results goes to the end of the log, can something be considered so that it evals to the side? i.e., (+ 1 2) => 3

Second

In the help, it says ":ConjureConfig [args] Displays or sets a configuration value with an optional language client prefix."

I type in :ConjureConfig and it says E471: Argument required

Reading it, I thought that by typing in :ConjureConfig without args, would display all current configuration options as set

.

Loving the new Conjure 🙂

Good point on the config! I'll have a think about those docs!

And not sure about displaying to the side :thinking_face: since it'll show the HUD to display the result anyway, food for thought though!

Is there a way to show all currently set config options?

All of their values and defaults are in the help file. You can only see individual values or tables of values, so :ConjureConfig mappings would show you all mappings. Maybe I can add a way to show all, it'll just be overwhelming, there's a lot.

In theory, they should all be set to the defaults that are in :help conjure other than those you've set with your vim config

Reading back, another option for chat is Zulip. The mobile app is decent.

The scicloj community uses it as a first class

how about dumping all config options into a temporary buffer?

meh, something to ponder.

Yeah, I'll add a note for config visibility. Not sure how to solve it, but can find a way.

Why do you want to print all of it by the way? And would that include all language clients config too?

I was reading through the docs and whilst I could see each entry, I was wondering - just show me how it's all configured, right now.

what all the defaults have been set, with the overrides I've set (not that I've set any yet) in one place.

Ah okay, well I've added it to my list

Maybe :ConjureConfig * and :ConjureConfig clojure.nrepl/* or something.

Maybe something like that

Something to ponder 😉

So far, no biggies with my switch

Yay! Glad to hear it. I'm mostly looking for anything that actually gets in the way of your work right now

If it's just kinda minor things it can go on my list

I want the release to be perfectly workable for day to day work though.

When are you thinking of releasing it?

(the only thing so far, is I'm used to do <localleader>cL to close the log

now I have to be in the log window and do :q to exit

Is this right too?

I have the log window open, and the hud shows too

It's reproduceable - if you open the log window, type something in (+ 1 2), then eval it, then cursor up and eval it again, you get the hud window appearing

Oh, I see...

If a result is appended to the end of the log and you don't currently have a
log on your screen with the cursor following along, the HUD will
appear (unless you've disabled it through config). This is to ensure you
always see new entries, even if you're looking at something further up in the
log.

makes sense, although for people with the screen real estate, it surprised me 🙂

Ah yes, I'll be changing that behaviour slightly soon. So the HUD will only show if you can't SEE the bottom of the log. Not if your cursor isn't on the last line

That should make a little more sense visually.

noice

I'm trying to break it - failing 🙂

is there a quick mapping to close the buffer?, like in conjure having <localleader>cL

And a key to close all logs might be useful

I don't have a mapping for it right now, no

that would be super neato

I'll add it. Should it be EVERY log window (and the hud...) or should it be just the ones in your current tab :thinking_face:

I only have one thing open, just the current log

(apart from my clojure code natch)

how about lc as you have ls and lv and lt

and lC for close all?

<shrug>

Or lq for log quit :thinking_face:

I'll have a thonk

do have a thonk 🙂

bbl

I think closing all windows everywhere would be okay tbh

Limited to the tab actually, yeah

Thank you for the feedback so far though! All good to know!

Limited to the tab sounds good.

I don't know why I would want to close all logs in all tabs.

Yeah, exactly.

sure, that sounds good! 🙂

i have run into a slight issue on the develop branch. i'm not sure if it's because of my setup or what, but it seems like when i use the "eval at mark" feature, it might be adding additional buffers or something? i noticed that when i do "eval at mark," then i exit the buffer i jumped from via :x or similar, there seems to be another copy of that buffer underneath

i can't figure out how to reliably repro it, unfortunately. i tried again now and no dice

I’ve just started playing with conjure with a simple duct project. It is using lein + integrant and I was wondering if it is possible to use something like cider-refresh in conjure. I’ve just stumbled on this gist from the Conjure’s author but prepared for vim-fireplace https://gist.github.com/Olical/1c696c01ed573f1844a97b047aba30f3

RE cider-refresh: @olical please still the code from replant to auto-detect the start/stop functions. I use it every day and managed to stop thinking about it.

I suppose one thing

if I do gd, the hub flashes up momentarily then disppears

I find that distracting.

(didn't happen with Conjure Classic)