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@vincent.cantin I'm adding you here because some discussions about Slack vs other options, or moderation or... tend to happen here from time to time.
in the category ‘finding a Slack alternative’: lots of positive comments about Zulip in this HN-thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18400988
> Zulip founder here; I should add that Zulip hosting is free for open source projects: https://zulipchat.com/for/open-source/. > > A bunch of other cool open source projects use it, including Python Core, parts of the Rust community, MariaDB, Coala, the Lean Theorem Prover, the HL7 standard, and many more.
Cool. Lot’s of enthusiasm in the HN-comments for the threading solution (ie topics).
ghehe. Playing around with the app and web-version against Zulip’s own chat (https://chat.zulip.org/#narrow/stream/1-announce): it seems not bad!
As for Slack: a recent thread on clojureverse (https://clojureverse.org/t/ideas-for-clojurians-log/3060) made it clear how hard it is to open up the slack archives 😞
@eval2020 I was thinking this morning that a Clojure community zulip would be nice to have.
we’re live: https://clojure.zulipchat.com/
Says I need an invitation to join, but I don't see a way of requesting one.
@U1UQEM078 there should be no invite needed: you can subscribe/login via that link
Is the expectation with Zulip that it will keep session history forever, or at least as long as they are around? Do they have an API for someone who wants to copy out all of the chat sessions? Given the legal difficulties of doing so with Slack for the Clojurians Slack log, is there a way when creating a new community to ask everyone to explicitly give permission for their chat messages to be logged elsewhere, with a rationale (i.e. we want to be able to allow everyone to search the archives later for technical content).?
@andy.fingerhut Zulip’s GDPR info is here: https://zulipchat.com/help/gdpr-compliance#gdpr-compliance
Sorry to bombard you with questions there. Just seems like things that if Zulip takes off, someone will ask later.
When making a log and republishing this you’ll run into the same problems as clojurians-slack-archive
Even if people give their permission up front?
I don't know GDPR, so perhaps it and laws like that are intended to let you make such an agreement, then later back out of it?
Agree with you that having some sort of agreement upfront would be nice - but seems not supported. Good thing about zulip (ie any service with searchable history) that users give/retract consent to that service and the service deals with it.
Understood. Nice if someone else handles such issues, if they are willing to do that.
Meaning, Zulip has an explicit feature to let admins poll all users and ask them to click Agree/Disagree on some proposal?
Or just, "we can ask everyone to go to this link, and see what happens"? Because the latter is what we have for Clojurians Slack, too, yes?
registering at https://clojurians.zulipchat.com should now work 👍