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dharrigan06:07:10

Good Morning!

paulspencerwilliams13:07:39

Struth, having a hard day today trying to convince our customer that they need to do root cause analysis if they want to understand why the team always misses out on the (hugely ambitious and rammed to the gills) sprint plans…

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paulspencerwilliams13:07:36

Why can’t people be as logical as computers?

Conor13:07:13

You can lead a horse to water etc.

djm14:07:03

I am quite happy to be free from sprinting

maleghast14:07:07

Man that is a tough nut to crack @paulspencerwilliams

maleghast14:07:35

I wish I had some sage advice as it's a problem I have encountered for years and doubtless will again.

paulspencerwilliams14:07:45

@djm_uk the arbitrary sprint end deadlines can be wasteful, but can be quite useful at the beginning of projects - good training wheels for agile. But you definitely grow out of them.

paulspencerwilliams14:07:55

One of the big problems is there’s a belief estimates get better as a team matures - and I tried to disbelieve a colleague who challenges this saying that maturity grows, but at the same speed as complexity which cancel each other out.

djm14:07:57

Point inflation magically increases velocity as the team matures 😁

paulspencerwilliams14:07:11

Haha, yeah, we’ve advised the customer to stop ‘estimating better’ and apply a factor, but when I mentioned that people will take into account that factor and estimate down according (or be persuaded to), they just looked at each other!

paulspencerwilliams14:07:10

Sprints are a terrible analogy too. How can you sprint constantly?

maleghast14:07:43

@paulspencerwilliams - That's why we call them iterations, not that it helps much... 😉