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peterwestmacott10:01:55

I enjoyed the Go-Jek talk at ClojureX last month. So I was amused to read Steve Yegge’s blog post about how Google can’t innovate and how he’s gone to work for a Go-Jek competitor called Grab (“Go-Jek and Grab are mortal enemies”)…. followed by news this morning that Google are investing in Go-Jek. I can’t help but wonder if these two things are related…

dominicm11:01:13

Steve Yegge once again moves against Clojure suspect

yogidevbear13:01:57

How so? I'm missing the reference from that article that @U08TUA46M posted

guy13:01:01

I am also missing the reference from the article sundarj posted to me 🙂

guy13:01:24

I mean maybe because hes using go-lang instead? was all i could see

minimal14:01:17

a long time ago he said he thought clojure was a conservative language because of its immutability, by default

yogidevbear14:01:28

Wow, that's some strong click-bait right there: >5) Lisp will be in the top 10 most popular programming languages by 2010. Haha, no. I had high hopes for Clojure for a while, but they're fairly user-hostile, even if they think (and loudly assert) that they aren't. I think Racket's maybe the best thing going in Lisp-land these days. But even I don't use Lisp anymore, other than the occasional Emacs hacking. Score: 0.0

yogidevbear14:01:27

I see that response of his is from 2015. Maybe he spoke 3 years too early

minimal14:01:33

He had a bunch of exchanges with rich on google groups and HN iirc. Not sure why people are so keen to hear what he has to say about their favourite language

guy14:01:13

People love gossip though 😉

yogidevbear14:01:29

Everyone's entitled to an opinion 🙂 It makes for a world where we try and improve things (hopefully)

guy11:01:00

oh what did he say?

elise_huard21:01:51

didn’t like that post at all, but for non-language related reasons

peterwestmacott09:01:57

Would you care to elaborate?

elise_huard11:01:12

The dubious 'tech-will-save-us-all' arguments, glossing over worker exploitation. Also the crass comparison of business competition to actual war/guerilla.

xlevus21:01:31

anybody know how I use what I've defined via clojure.spec's (s/def in compojure-api? I had a 'complex' data structure defined with Prismatic-Schema, and had compojure-api validating that fine. But decided to fiddle with clojure.spec and can't for the life of me work out what the magic syntax is to get compojure-api to use spec instead of Schema

xlevus22:01:02

bah, duh. read the docs, and all the docs you idiot _ Just needed to install spec-tools