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2017-08-04
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yogidevbear06:08:23

☀️ Morning all

maleghast08:08:22

Hello Clojure Land…

agile_geek08:08:31

morning - that's me for the day as I enter the Faraday cage...see you about 6pm

yogidevbear08:08:51

Good luck, Chris

maleghast08:08:43

All the best there, chap

glenjamin08:08:44

i wonder if it’s an intentional cage, or just a crap building

maleghast11:08:57

@glenjamin - I bet it’s totally intentional… Poor @agile_geek

agile_geek11:08:30

@glenjamin @maleghast when I worked here in 2011 someone told me it was intentional to reduce chance of a bomb triggered by phone/radio or evesdropping. U can get very poor signal inside so not sure if that's just apocryphal

maleghast11:08:34

@agile_geek - I have worked in buildings in the past where people have claimed similar things, so I am at least aware that these things are often talked about… 🙂

maleghast11:08:02

Mobile phones are a pretty obvious security risk, but asking everyone to fork over their phone on the way into work is unlikely to make people feel warm and rosy about their workplace. Being simply unable to use their phones because “the building is designed to make phones less useful for security purposes” is less confrontational…

maleghast11:08:12

(yes I realise that it’s a lot of effort to go to)

jonpither12:08:14

some people's phones work OK - think it's also an operator specific thing. Also, depends where you are in the building obv

maleghast12:08:27

Oh… In that case it’s just a shit building… 😉

jonpither12:08:41

Well. It is known for mice to fall from the ceiling...

maleghast12:08:02

Oh my… That’s not cool at all.

dominicm13:08:24

Some operators use a lower frequency for their signal, which gets a better building penetration.

mccraigmccraig13:08:56

iirc you get best range/penetration on 2G networks with 900MHz band - which is vodafone, O2 from the major providers according to http://www.4g.co.uk/4g-frequencies-uk-need-know/

dominicm13:08:01

3 just turned on a lower frequency 4G band.

dominicm13:08:42

Yeah, the 800mhz was just turned on.

mccraigmccraig13:08:34

but do you get better coverage with 2G at a given freq than with 4G ? (albeit with useless data)

dominicm13:08:07

I get great coverage at my parents on Three, and they live in the middle of nowhere. Better than I did with O2.

mccraigmccraig13:08:16

ha, at my old house i tried 3 and got no signal whatsoever, but passable coverage from O2 and EE... at my new house i get rubbish signal from any provider

dominicm13:08:24

http://www.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=United+Kingdom I guess that 800Mhz/4G will get better coverage than 2G now.

dominicm13:08:46

I've noticed a difference in rural areas with Three's recent upgrade, so that's something

maleghast14:08:26

No coverage here… If I drive down to the shore of Loch Lomond I can make a call or send a text, gprs only for data, so I wouldn’t bother. Apparently if you are on EE there is a square metre by the side of Loch Katrine that mystically works…

dominicm14:08:15

Three also has the nice feature where wifi works as signal if you install their app, so that's good. Very impressed with them.

dominicm14:08:27

actually, it might work without their app

mccraigmccraig14:08:40

i think it's a platform feature requiring phone service provider collaboration - i have the same on EE on both my iphone and android, but my neighbour doesn't get it on her older iphone

dominicm14:08:18

I think it's built into my S8, yeah.

dominicm14:08:32

only some devices supported. But a nice look into the future.

maleghast15:08:32

O2 do something similar where you can install an app that allows you access to your O2 account as a VOIP service if you are on Wifi, it’s called TU, used to be called TUgo

dominicm15:08:23

Yeah, I lied. I have to install some app. Three Intouch. So not magical.

dominicm15:08:46

Looks like Voice over LTE is a thing, so I'm guessing 2G will go away soon, now that 4G has far better penetration.

maleghast16:08:06

Anyone know a good trick to get the last result / output of a REPL into the clipboard, on a Mac..?

maleghast16:08:36

Never mind… I’ve satisfied my curiosity the hard way 🙂

dominicm17:08:16

https://hype.codes/what-polyglot-native I'm guessing this will be a solved problem for lambda.

dominicm17:08:35

Turns out the clojure strategy of waiting is pretty good