same good, same good 👍

There must be some law text supporting your claim

I think a basic Google search would lead to that

The main issue is convincing them that this Jørgen guy probably isn’t the expert he purports to be after they’ve spent a decade believing so.

presumably they are getting confused by the difference between "retrospectively changing the license on already out-there releases" and "changing the license for future releases" ?

Exactly. Maybe I should email them a link to the official documentation about Clojure’s approach to identity and state :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

with the first being expressly forbidden by some (i looked at MIT, and it's forbidden there) oss licenses, and the second being absolutely fine

I’ve already sent them several emails explaining that actually we aren’t modifying the licence, just relicensing for new users

To them the software is exactly one entity, not several releases with separate licences. It’s very hard to get through to them about this.

ah, you need an IAAL person to override their IANAL issues

😛

I have had to think about software licences since I was a teenager. I wish they would just trust me on this.

or alternatively, find someone called jørgen to offer up a revised opinion ? if they can't tell the difference between software versions, they might not be able to tell the difference between jørgens!

or let them talk to a lawyer... that will heal them.

Surprised no-one has yet suggested asking http://chat.openai.com

good point @U052XLL3A 😄

Now I just to prove that ChatGPT isn’t making shit up 😛

i don't think ChatGPT gave you a useful answer there @U4P4NREBY 😢

it doesn't talk about newer versions being allowed to have different license options from prior versions

"Skærmbillede" what a fantastic word!!!

@U0524B4UW Perhaps this is better

bingo: now it's hitting the 💅 right on the 👦 !

so picky these AI's

To be fair, the first prompt was also a bit biased. BTW I actually just sent them the second skærmbillede 😛

yep, agree - the first prompt was ambiguous and it responded well to one interpretation of the prompt

you must really be on tenterhooks waiting to find out whether they will believe chatGPT when they wouldn't believe you!

and TIL the word tenterhook

You could point out that some software is published under dual licenses, such as an open source and an incompatible commercial one. So I would argue you could even license old versions under a different license in addition to the old one. For new releases you could then use just the new one.

no worries.... that is what we are here for. To help and support each other with rants so that we all can keep a tiny bit of our sanity. :hugging_face:

ö œ ø Ha! Me too!

å

æ is the most annoying as it's not obvious at all 🙂

it's less æsthetically placed

you own a badass specialised keyboard or sth? (I really don’t know)

i'm on a vanilla UK macbook keyboard - i have alt-o=ø, alt-a=å and alt-'=æ by default ... there are others, but i don't use them, so i don't know them

Nothing special: http://allswellworld.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/biggest_keyboard2b2.jpg

that’s some pwnage

unicode, i18l, and inclusiveness, that’s way to goooo

I always thought that the funny-looking o, a etc are just accents, but they are actually their own letters.

(Greek has accents that are generally stripped away for most NLP tasks)

@U0524B4UW wait, why do you use Scandinavian letters? Are you secretly Scandinavian?

@U4P4NREBY i'm british, but lived in norway for a bit... my oldest son and my ex still do... i have a norsk personnummer, although i don't know what it is... so i have no idea what that makes me

Fake Norwegian?

ha, my norsk is pretty rusty these days, so i'll be a poor-quality fake, bought in the pub on a drunken night out

Good enough 😉

Where are you located?

Hong Kong 😅

nvm the temperature is back up today…… for now

Love Hong Kong!

tentacles are going to come out of that and pull me in. You can't fool me again.

so you already escaped once @U0525KG62? or are you now a different @U0525KG62, dispatched to lure more victims ?

no change here, why do you ask?

oh, no big reason, maybe just wondering whether to go into hiding...

🐙

no hiding

/me rushes to fridge to throw away last night's calamari

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nothing to see here ... 🙈

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Too late

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