Sounds like you want to shake us for lunch money

haha!

watch out, robbie’s coming

https://phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=1356

I was shitty in school, and I’m doing fine without it in my career as well. I find it much easier to learn now, and interesting, since it’s out of my own volition.

The kind of mathematics needed for programming isn’t really like highschool maths IMO… I don’t think it matters much.

Unless you’re doing 3D stuff

math education is one of those controversial area - the only consensus is that the status quo isn’t working, but everyone has their idea for how to fix it. Not fun.

from an individual pov, math is like music - you need to hear different genre and find out which one fits your taste - “something for everyone” kinda scenario

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhPWJHrwgR4

I have no idea about your math skills, but I would have expected you to score high in logic and natural languages.

Thank you!

i often wonder what the relationship between programming skill and an interest in words and wordplay is

i'm sure there must be something to it

something about how rules can be creatively applied, and enjoying finding novel and interesting ways to do so

I'm of the opinion all programmers should take a creative writing course

That would be fun!

More than fun. What is programming, if not the expression of our ideas about a problem in writing?

i really like this writing guide: https://www.julian.com/guide/write/intro

I like both natural languages and programming, but NLP is also the domain I work in, so maybe I’m not the best example.

One thing I’ve discovered is that most programmers also seem to know how to play an instrument.

I've also noticed that with instruments/music. I'm not one of them, though. 😃

@pez well, get on it then!

This is my way to avoid the stereotype.

@UK0810AQ2 I enjoyed Zach Tellman’s Elements of Clojure since it goes into naming things and seems to analyse code structure in general as a language/tool of communication.

loved EoC's naming chapter!

i'm sure you could learn to play a mean triangle @pez 😂

Thank you! As for why we have only 0.5% pass rate, I have some hypothesis: 1. We have a messy frontend, so we need strong programmers, so our tech interview might be hard. 2. The inverse of the python paradox, ie there are a lot of Javascript “programmers” out there 3. We also ask for a home assignment, I believe that filters out quite a few as well. I have some opinions on why that is as well. 4. I think we as a company (and as an industry) tend to lump all aspects of frontend programming into one pile. With our codebase, it really makes sense to talk about the frontend of the frontend, and the backend of the frontend, where there are two very different skill-sets required. I can’t make a div centered if my life depended on it, but I can do meaningful work on the non-visible parts of the code.

And WRT to maps and MongoDB, they’re a match made in heaven, just until the exact moment they’re not 🙂

hah, I had a bad idea yesterday and couldn't resist it

(defmacro |
  [& ks]
  `(s/alt ~@(interleave (map (comp keyword name) ks) ks)))

(defmacro or*
  [& ks]
  `(s/or ~@(interleave (map (comp keyword name) ks) ks)))

(defmacro &&
  [& forms]
  `(s/cat ~@(for [form forms
                  :let [t (cond
                            (keyword? form) (keyword (name form))

                            (or (coll? form)
                                (symbol? form))
                            (if-let [t (->> form
                                            meta
                                            keys
                                            (filter (fn [k] (= (namespace k) (str *ns*))))
                                            first)]
                              (keyword (name t))
                              :_)

                            :else :_)]
                  x [t form]]
              x)))

(defmacro &&* [& forms] `(s/spec (&& ~@forms)))

(s/def ::query (&& ::find-spec ::return-map? ::with-clause? ::inputs? ::where-clauses?))
(s/def ::find-spec (&& #{:find} ^::find (| ::find-rel ::find-coll ::find-tuple ::find-scalar)))
(s/def ::return-map (| ::return-keys ::return-syms ::return-strs))

bad ideas are fun haha

Not sure how bad that idea is. My spec skills are non-existent. I'm pretty sure a library providing awk semantics would be a good idea though. 😃 Some problems are awk shaped.

forgot where I saw it, but it seems some ppl have further extended the already powerful awk to something totally op

(cue “now you have two problems” joke 😱)

I think Clojure + awk-ish semantics can get pretty OP for certain applications.

classic tradeoff 🙂 faster ui dev =/= faster i18n dictionary management

we have 30 languages. it's a yuge timesuck

stuff like accessibility and responsive design also sits in this 'after the logic is how we want it' space

yup. Although when it comes to accessibility, just sticking to built-in HTML elements rather than DYI div soup solves like 80% of those concerns AoT 🙂

This is squint's range function: https://github.com/squint-cljs/squint/blob/d3fe82c8d108e4fb65a62be1815468ff26f70788/core.js#L575

@U04V15CAJ beautiful

Very cool. I wish to some day become as capable with SVG.

Calories is one thing. What about the particular nutrients that you get from each food type? I'm not particularly well versed in nutrition 😅 But my girlfriend knows more about it, and she says that there are some things - idk if it's minerals, vitamins or whatever - that you'll be missing out on if you cut out meat from your diet, and don't add supplements or make an effort to find veggie foods that contain them.

Regarding feeling full, I'm convinced that (for me, at least) proteins have a big role to play. I can eat whatever food and feel full as long as it has proteins. My father-in-law's protein-free vegetarian meals taste great, and I can keep eating them, because I'm never full. Afterwards, I feel like having another meal. Perhaps that's a habitual thing, though.

@reefersleep That's a good question. The reverse is actually true. If you switch from a standard Western diet to a whole foods plant based diet, you'll get way more minerals and vitamins. Plant foods, calorie for calorie, contain more vitamins and minerals, than meat and dairy. You just gotta watch out that you're not eating the majority of your calories from junk foods (empty calories). If you're doing a whole foods plant based diet, and eat enough calories, you'll get enough micronutrients. As for protein: I'd say, read about why some athletes have switched to a vegan diet. They're getting enough protein. The Western diet contains too much protein which can cause diseases. If you want an easy introduction into the above, there is a documentary about this called Forks Over Knives: https://www.forksoverknives.com/the-film/ They also have recipes.

thanks 🙂 think I’ve got it in a watch list already!

Ah, I remember a specific thing; omega 3 oil. We supplement that already because we hardly eat fish. I suppose vegetarians should be doing the same. From what I understand, it’s very important.

I like the calorie for calorie thing, makes sense to me.

I take a vegan DHA supplement (DHA is one of the components of omega 3). You can get omega 3 from flax and chia seeds as well

DHA is also one of the things you get from fish, but fish get it from algae. The supplement is made from algae.

skip the middle man 😄

There is also vitamin B12, this is main thing you need to supplement. Meat/fish contains B12 but plant foods generally do not. B12 isn't made by animals though, it's made by bacteria in the soil, which animals ingest. Our food is basically too clean nowadays to get B12 from the soil

It takes years to develop a B12 insufficiency because your body can store it, but it is something to be aware of long term. Some people have B12 insufficiency even while eating animal products

It's common to feed animals B12 in large scale "factories" because they aren't on the soil anymore either

So what I'm taking: B12 (three times a week), vitamin D (every day in winter) and DHA (three times a week), no other supplements

I’m having omega 3 oil every morning, vitamin D every morning, and a mix of stuff morning and evening. Sounds like you’ve done your research 🙂 I haven’t! My girlfriend did, and I’m just benefitting from it 😄

We probably have b12 in there, too.

I've been on a plant based diet for over a decade and I've done quite some reading in the beginning

@slipset http://nomeatathlete.com is one of them (just ignore all the supplement sale stuff)

The above might be too much focused on health. There are also some more mainstream things that just focus on taste. This is a great one: https://www.amazon.com/Veganomicon-10th-Anniversary-Ultimate-Cookbook/dp/0738218995/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?tag=mind0a3-20

there are also some things like veganuary and "21 day vegan starter kit" you can google for that are focused on doing it for a while

My wife is very different from me. I'm more an all or nothing guy so I'm doing it 100% from day 1 (once I decided I wanted to do it). It took my wife several years to adapt. She suggested once to me to start with a vegetarian (not even vegan) meal once a week. I just took it a step further than her ;)

I respect that people are different and even if you just try and it's not for you, that's totally fine.

I tried going vegan a couple of decades ago. I was also bicycling a ton. And I kept losing weight. Got too skinny. So I added a bit of poultry to my diet. Like you @U04V15CAJ, I’m an all or nothing guy, 0 or 1. So you can imagine what happened. I could try again but this time I could first study what I actually should be eating!

yeah, it's a common beginner's mistake to just eat too little. you gotta be aware of the calorie content of food a little bit more

if you're overweight (like I was) it's actually a good feature, I have no trouble with keeping on weight naturally ;)

I was a lean mean bicycling machine. But now I’m a bit tubby. I tell my wife I have “flabs of steel”.

ya my blog site (using github pages back then) is also in jekyll with a custom build on my local machine only… the right thing for me to do is to convert it to any modern SSG, and move the build to CI/CD. But I’m out of time, plain markdown files in a github repo will do in a pinch 😂

I guess I should just roll another joint and join the discussion: Dude, it’s like your data is traveling too far, or something. Try some cohesion…

Dude, the further your data travels, the less type information you need to know about it...

🚬

i'd say that tweet is bait given his profile 🙂

as a matter of principles, I almost always prefer a two-step process to setting up any programming language on a machine (cloud or local) - install a “language/platform version manager”, then use that manager to install a specific version

e.g. nvm or n -> node + npm, sdkman -> java