bozhidar: is there a reason ctrl+enter is never used?

I love it in lighttable

(define-key clojure-mode-map (kbd "C-<return>") 'cider-eval-last-sexp-to-repl)

I think I like it just evaluated better for ctrl + enter

stripped -to-repl now that feels really nice

it’s not a common Emacs keybinding

pretty much all the Lisp modes use C-c C-e/`C-x C-e` and we have to respect this tradition

obviously there’s no real stopper to use C-RET for something

I’m also thinking of adding some Super and Hyper keybindings in the future

as we’re running out of key combos with Control and Meta

(Super -> Windows/Command key, Hyper -> Fn key)

@jvm as it happens, speed-of-thought-clojure uses C-RET. :-)

But it's not extremely common. The only major mode I can think of that uses it org mode. But I don't think there's any reason not to use it (other than the fact that some people use C-j/m instead of RET).

@bozhidar: I'd really appreciate not using Super for emacs modes by default. As many users do, I've bound Super for all window manager related things because that's the only left modifier key on my keyboard which surely won't clash with any emacs key.

@bozhidar: If you're really running out of keys, then an option would be to use Magit's popup dispatch functionality. With the new Magit 2.1.0 release, that has been pulled out into its own package magit-popup to be used by others.

I also consider my Super and hyper keys to be my personal playground.

or well just nest a bit more deeply some things

as we did for documentation

time will tell

https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider/issues/692

I quite like the magit-popup, since it helps with discoverability while not being in my way - if I know the keybindings, I can press them really fast and not be bothered by the popups

Same here

I don't really see how they would help with the vanishing of keyboard realestate, but they are fantastic for discoverability

Half of what I know about git I learned from magit's popups

btw, here’s one important change for ClojureScript users https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider/pull/1195#issuecomment-120888507

hydras should also serve the same benefit, and might be more lightweight (and perhaps easier to setup) than magit's popups

All hail the industrious, Artur @malabarba

whoa, that was fast. Well done!

@bozhidar: 😃

Though that should come with a "Bugs expected" warning

yep

that’s why it’s important to solicit as much testing as possible

but that’s definitely a step in making cljs a first-class citizen in CIDER

is it possible to set the default indentation in cider-mode?

I'd like it to default to 2 space indent

instead of lining up arguments

indentation is controlled by clojure-mode

and yes, it’s possible

(defcustom clojure-defun-style-default-indent nil
  "When non-nil, use default indenting for functions and macros.
Otherwise check `define-clojure-indent' and `put-clojure-indent'."
  :type 'boolean
  :group 'clojure
  :safe 'booleanp)

thanks!

yep, that's what I wanted

you rock, @bozhidar

I think its kind of ironic to try to be common with emacs when that makes you uncommon with 99% of the rest of the tools of the world hehe

(not being an ass here I just really believe that we should release a common emacs with keybindings everyone else uses)

I did ctrl+enter for evaluate and alt+enter to send line to repl for evaluation

it works nicely

I might do ctrl+shift+enter instead though to kind of match lighttable

I am loving cider / emacs

> (not being an ass here I just really believe that we should release a common emacs with keybindings everyone else uses) I think there are several of those out there

Anyway, keybinds are the easiest thing to move around. I'm 100% in favor of having an option or a mode that switches Cider's keybinds to care less about Emacs and more about what other IDE's do

I make all my other ide's conform to what emacs does

but that's just eclipse

I'd even write it myself if someone just gave me a table listing cider commands with key used by other IDEs

@gtrak: and my browsers!

hehe

actually there is a nice pdf on github and you can generate it also

@malabarba: I’m fine with having some ide-style keymap if enough people are really into this

or perhaps there should IDEA map, Eclipse map, etc

I don’t know

I’ve never had much issues switching between IDEs and Emacs

mostly because I used emacs keybindings inside them

Yeah, keymaps are cheap.

I don't really have the time to go and find out the keylist of other editors and then figure out which operations correspond to cider commands. But if someone gives be a list of keys with corresponding cider commands, I can transform it to code in 15 min.

But then, I guess I'm just pushing the hard part off to someone else.

The big ones I instinctively do now and then are: CMD-Enter to Execute CMD-D to duplicate CMD+<arrow keys> to move text around

From IDEA

I'd want ctrl+s for save, ctrl+c for copy, ctrl+v for paste hehe yes I know of the terminology of yank, kill, and whatever M-w is called ?whack?

hehe

M-w is called copy. Boring, right?

Oh, @jwm You may also want to try ergoemacs

It does a lot of these common bindings, like C-c, C-s, etc

And is global to everything in Emacs

Is there any way to re-run a test when I'm in a different namespace? I often want run a test, see that it fails, switch to the implementation and make my changes and would love to be able to just re-run the last test from that buffer, rather than having to switch back to the test namespace to run it.

@voxdolo not as simple as run-last-test, but it seems like you should just be able to run

(clojure.test/test-vars [#'the-ns/the-test])

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24970853/run-one-clojure-test-not-all-tests-in-a-namespace-with-fixtures-from-the-rep

surreal.analysis: looks like you could build a run-last-test with something like that though. I may just have my hand at it. Thanks!