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2017-03-13
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chokheli01:03:09

Hey guys, I have a question, is there anyone here or is it just me who thoroughly hates anything that touches front-end/JS/CLJS[re-frame, reagent] etc? I’ve been struggling with this for years, at my first job I was supposed to learn javascript and write front-end, after 2 months of struggle I just stayed with java and wrote back-end data-heavy apps for 3 years. Right now I’m in the same situation, just it’s Clojurescript. Because of specific project I’m forcing myself to get interested in front-end and actually build something in Clojurescript but I’m having a very tough time with myself.

tbaldridge01:03:15

Yeah, I hear you these. CSS + HTML is a catastrophe.

tbaldridge01:03:08

It helps if you can hire a designer and hand those bits to someone that's good at it.

tbaldridge01:03:52

Doing that I've managed to stay away from CSS in the CLJS apps I've worked on

chokheli01:03:44

no, not just CSS, but for example for the starting point I have to write single page app with map + specific locations on it, in re-frame. And this views, events just drives me crazy.

chokheli01:03:32

At a previous job I also had to work with MVC, old style, though > ExtJs, and it was a horror for me.

danvingo01:03:15

do you have a UI paradigm that you prefer?

chokheli01:03:01

No, I just despise building UIs. 😃

chokheli02:03:35

It’s doesn’t feel challenging enough for me personally to put my mind into : (

rmoehn02:03:00

Hi! I want to introduce some Japanese students (ie. not especially strong English language ability, to match my not especially strong Japanese ability) to Clojure. Is there some fun stuff that they could do just playing around with ClojureScript in their browser?

rmoehn02:03:41

Looks good, thank you!

rmoehn02:03:50

Further suggestions are welcome.

sb15:03:20

When I started with lein repl no problem, when I started with lein ring server-headless 8080.. I see that.

sb16:03:01

I checked the old version (I didn’t get similar message on the server) and the new version too now...

sb16:03:21

I use lein clean too. Any idea?

sb16:03:18

Before this, I created two new helper ns (mailer and database processes), after this.. I saw this message.

not-raspberry16:03:20

"Address already in use"

not-raspberry16:03:46

check what's listening on that port

sb16:03:48

I restarted the server and every works fine..

sb16:03:55

why did I get this message?

not-raspberry16:03:03

sudo netstat -tlpn

sb16:03:12

thanks! next time I will check it.

not-raspberry16:03:17

something was listening on that very same port

sb16:03:18

Maybe monger bug or similar..

not-raspberry16:03:50

not a bug, some background process

sb16:03:27

Ok! I restart the new version and I check it. Thanks for your help! @not-raspberry :+1:

not-raspberry16:03:26

if you don't have netstat, use ss, same arguments, only horrendously-tabulated output

sb16:03:21

Ok, thanks! No problem now. I don’t have idea.. what was the problem.

not-raspberry16:03:45

The problem was there was a process bound to the same TCP port. E.g. you may have left lein repl with a server running in it. Or used C-z instead of C-c.

sb16:03:23

Yes, maybe I did.. something little idiot thing (not with C-c etc). Next time I will check it.