It’s fine as along as you use an alias or a qualified keyword eg with your org name in it

great thanks! that's what is was hoping for

To avoid conflicts with either deps.edn itself or other tools that do the same

if you have a repro I could help

without a repro, don't know what to say actually

OK I will try to put something together.

what OS + version are you using

Windows. Babashka v1.3.182 running on powershell. I have about 50+ tasks running against a set of clojure files that are about 2300 lines of clojure in about 10 files.

I bet it's the amount of code being loaded in top level :requires that takes the time. You can verify this by doing a manual:

bb -e '(ns foo (:require ...))

but without a repro it's again hard to say

Sorry this in in house. That was my suspicion - I am not complaining just an observation.

in in house - do you mean, the code is in your house? :)

@U4C3ZU6KX just in case - if you're using taoensso.timbre logging, I've found it really slows down loading

I mean it is inside my company and I can't share it.

You can maybe lazy-load some namespaces to make startup faster using (requiring-resolve 'foo.bar/the-function)

Thanks @U05NY1NK44W I am not using that.

I am not sure how taoensso.timbre would make stuff load slower since the logger is baked in

@U4C3ZU6KX ok, but then try to remove the top level requires. It will break your code, but you can test if that is it by printing something in your :init

something along those lines

Thanks will do.

It turned out that I must have thought of using taoensso.timbre as I had it included in the bb files requires - even though I am not using it in the other parts of of my code (I must have started and not carried it through) taking it out has changed the start time for the better. Thanks @U05NY1NK44W

@U4C3ZU6KX @U05NY1NK44W This surprises me. Can you please make a repro that shows how taoensso.timbre slows down startup time?

I will look to do this sometime soon - will let you know when I have it working.

$ time bb -e "(require '[taoensso.timbre :as t])"
bb -e "(require '[taoensso.timbre :as t])"   0.02s  user 0.01s system 89% cpu 0.026 total

$ time bb -e "(require '[taoensso.timbre :as t]) (t/info :hello)"
2023-11-23T10:35:29.571Z m1.local INFO [user:1] - :hello
bb -e "(require '[taoensso.timbre :as t]) (t/info :hello)"   0.02s  user 0.01s system 82% cpu 0.037 total

Thanks @U04V15CAJ All I can say is that with tasks startup it made a difference. Thanks for looking.

@U04V15CAJ, for me it added a 3 second startup time.

That is what I am seeing.

@U05NY1NK44W the exact example I wrote above?

no, when i added it to my application

please provide a repro

if you have time to make one

so we can solve this problem for everyone

Here is the start of my bb.edn file - it has some

{:paths ["src", "test"]
 :deps {com.rpl/specter {:mvn/version "1.1.4"}
        org.clj-commons/clj-http-lite {:mvn/version "1.0.13"}
        metosin/malli {:mvn/version "0.11.0"}
        clj-commons/clj-yaml {:mvn/version "1.0.26"}
        etaoin/etaoin {:mvn/version "1.0.40"}
        com.github.oliyh/martian-babashka-http-client {:mvn/version "0.1.25"}}
 :tasks {:requires ([etaoin.api :as e]
                    [ogsetup.core :as  core]
                    ...
                    [testing :as testing]
                    [cheshire.core :as json]
                    [clojure.tools.cli :as cli]
                    [babashka.curl :as curl]
                    [babashka.fs :as fs]
                    [taoensso.timbre :as timbre])
         :init (do
                 (def cli (cli/parse-opts *command-line-args* core/cli-options))
                 (def options (:options cli))
                 (utils/set_config (utils/read-edn-file "" (:config options)))
                 (utils/set-user (:user options))
                 (when (:info options) (do (utils/set-verbosity :info) (add-tap println) (timbre/set-level! :info)))
                 (when (:debug options) (do (utils/set-verbosity :debug) (add-tap println) (timbre/set-level! :debug)))
                 (when (:help options) (println (:summary (cli/parse-opts *command-line-args* core/cli-options))))
                 (utils/tapd-> (utils/get_config (utils/get-user)))
                 (utils/tapd-> options))
         help (println (:summary (cli/parse-opts *command-line-args* core/cli-options)))}

will do, it won't be today though

preferably a github project I can run locally

fyi, i don't use the logging from tasks,

Sorry it has cruft that you won't need but just removing the timbre lines - improved the performance

@U04V15CAJ just tried your example

time bb -e "(require '[taoensso.timbre :as t]) (t/info :hello)" 2023-11-23T12:59:13.896Z UnknownHost INFO [user:1] - :hello ______________________________________________________ Executed in 5.01 secs fish external usr time 8.64 millis 384.00 micros 8.26 millis sys time 3.83 millis 117.00 micros 3.72 millis

bet you it's the unknown host, some timeout trying to get hostname or something

@U4C3ZU6KX A standalone example would be something like:

{:paths ["src", "test"]
 :deps {com.rpl/specter {:mvn/version "1.1.4"}
        org.clj-commons/clj-http-lite {:mvn/version "1.0.13"}
        metosin/malli {:mvn/version "0.11.0"}
        clj-commons/clj-yaml {:mvn/version "1.0.26"}
        etaoin/etaoin {:mvn/version "1.0.40"}
        com.github.oliyh/martian-babashka-http-client {:mvn/version "0.1.25"}}
 :tasks {:requires ([etaoin.api :as e]
                    [cheshire.core :as json]
                    [clojure.tools.cli :as cli]
                    [babashka.curl :as curl]
                    [babashka.fs :as fs]
                    [taoensso.timbre :as timbre])
         :init (do
                 (def cli (cli/parse-opts *command-line-args* {}))
                 (def options (:options cli))
                 (when (:info options) (timbre/set-level! :info))
                 (when (:debug options) (do (add-tap println) (timbre/set-level! :debug)))
                 (when (:help options) (println (:summary (cli/parse-opts *command-line-args* {})))))
         help (println (:summary (cli/parse-opts *command-line-args* {})))}
 }

i running on fedora, but i do have a hostname ok

@U05NY1NK44W Interesting

Ok sorry @U04V15CAJ, I will try.

@U4C3ZU6KX, did you run @Borkdudes example, do you have a hostname ok?

Can you try:

bb -e '(.getHostName (java.net.InetAddress/getLocalHost))'

ritchie@blackdog ~> bb -e '(.getHostName (http://java.net.InetAddress/getLocalHost))' ----- Error -------------------------------------------------------------------- Type: java.net.UnknownHostException Message: blackdog: blackdog: Try again Location: <expr>:1:1 ----- Context ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1: (.getHostName (http://java.net.InetAddress/getLocalHost)) ^--- blackdog: blackdog: Try again ----- Stack trace -------------------------------------------------------------- user - <expr>:1:1

that's the problem

and how long does it take?

it took a few secs

nice!

Executed in 5.01 secs fish external usr time 6.38 millis 0.00 micros 6.38 millis sys time 3.72 millis 508.00 micros 3.21 millis

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33289695/inetaddress-getlocalhost-slow-to-run-30-seconds

ok, so maybe a dns misconfiguration

I am running on windows and so might that might be the cause.

@U4C3ZU6KX try the snippet and find out

if i add my hostname into /etc/hosts file then it works fine

i probably altered my hostname manually at some point in the past,

but /etc/hosts only contained localhost.localdomain et al

time bb -e '(.getHostName (http://java.net.InetAddress/getLocalHost))' "blackdog" ______________________________________________________ Executed in 11.89 millis fish external

might be worth filing an issue with timbre about this

well, it's really a local misconfiguration in a way

cool, maybe something to add in the timbre README as a gotcha

powershell:

Measure-Command {start-process bb get-help -Wait}           


Days              : 0
Hours             : 0
Minutes           : 0
Seconds           : 2
Milliseconds      : 348
Ticks             : 23487645
TotalDays         : 2.71847743055556E-05
TotalHours        : 0.000652434583333333
TotalMinutes      : 0.039146075
TotalSeconds      : 2.3487645
TotalMilliseconds : 2348.7645

2.3s seems like the same problem

and what was the return value

summary: my hostname in /etc/hostname was blackdog, but this was not entered into /etc/hosts

I think this may be because on windows the concept of hostname may be different so could be the same issue.

adding blackdog to the 127.0.0.1 list of names fixed the issue

@U4C3ZU6KX what was the return value...?

It would normally have given the cli help output, but Measure-command seems to swallow the return value.

lol

try without the time then?

I'll boot my own windows machine

yay! i can use logging again

C:\Users\borkdude>bb -e "(.getHostName (java.net.InetAddress/getLocalHost))"
"DESKTOP-JN2UNTV"

@U05NY1NK44W good news!

@U4C3ZU6KX can you try the same thing as I did above in cmd.exe or powershell?

and paste the result here

please? :)

Which command?

https://clojurians.slack.com/archives/CLX41ASCS/p1700745276264909?thread_ts=1700659069.699279&amp;cid=CLX41ASCS

the getlocalHost worked as yours did.

What did you get as a return value (third time is a charm...)?

"DESKTOP-..."

alright. in both powershell and cmd.exe?

Yes same.

Sorry I am in a work meeting

no problem. then I think the root cause of your delay might not be timbre

or it's a different issue in timbre