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Howon Lee13:08:00

Releasing https://github.com/howonlee/mertonon. Mertonon is a neural network budget for organizations. Basically the neural network just allocates your budget for you, given a political picture of your organization that you enter. Because of this, it's neural but not AI. Lots of accounting stuff and a whole economic theory bundled in is coming. Noncapitalist mode also coming. Theoretically open core but currently entirely open source, enterprise edition with stuff coming. My other dev buddies found the readme a bag of laughs even if they didn't really care about organizational budgeting, so that's a thing

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mrnhrd14:08:01

fwiw I tried to play around with the standalone jar version by following docs/setup.md, but it ignored the db username env var and instead tried to connect with my linux username (`db.clj:18` appears in the stacktrace).

Howon Lee14:08:01

thanks, I'll get on it

respatialized15:08:14

time to get into Stafford Beer mindset

Howon Lee15:08:48

I read his books. he got that old norbert wiener energy w/ the hierarchical algedonic learning bit

mrnhrd15:08:12

it must be some jdbc.next issue, passing {:jdbcUrl jdbc:} instead of the config spec in db.clj and migrations.clj works flawlessly.

Howon Lee15:08:30

yeah, I'm going to shove that in after breakfast. I could not repro on my mac box but could on my amazon linux box

Howon Lee15:08:24

fix on master, although I plan to only cut releases on thursdays

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Howon Lee15:08:28

respatialized is referencing project cybersyn, by the way, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn - stafford beer tried this in the 70's, got a country (chile) to adopt it, richard nixon was pissed, supported pinochet who had the president surrounded by death squads holed up in the mansion until he killed himself, exiled beer, tortured and exiled the chilean dude who interfaced w/ beer and the chileans (cff flores, who much later did a thing trying to get peeps to do business conferences in world of warcraft...)

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Howon Lee16:08:36

I'm not too impressed by the underlying algorithmic content of beer's ideas, but that's because you shouldn't be overly impressed by any 1970's AI work, to be honest. it's closer to the connectionist point of view than most, i guess, but he neglected the importance of distributed representations. but nobody who wasn't a weenie was really convinced of the absolute importance of distributed representations until the ... 2000s or so, lol. maybe even the 2010s

respatialized16:08:12

https://the-santiago-boys.com/ Evgeny Morozov recently did an oral history of Project Cybersyn for those interested in the history in podcast form.

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Howon Lee16:08:21

0% technical, i'm afraid, tho

vemv09:08:13

honest question - is this a real project, or an elaborate joke?

Howon Lee09:08:23

the allocator currently works, if with a huge menagerie of known bugs and prolly a bigger one of unknown, and I spent 2 months debugging that, so not too much of a joke

Howon Lee09:08:52

there's a novel nonlinearity and i relearned renormalization group again for the purpose. the way i got it to not saturate bothers me in its weirdness but its... workingness

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Howon Lee09:08:31

I do understand the boopfinkling and the zoopminkling does seem to be a bit much

Dustin Getz14:08:59

Electric Clojure v2-alpha-428 is released, see https://github.com/hyperfiddle/electric/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md. • Greatly improved Clojure/Script compat (varargs, apply, multi arity, #js, java & js interop forms e.g. js/alert) • Fixed many ClojureScript compiler warnings, especially around type hints e.g. ^js • core.match and clojure.logging now work seamlessly in Electric • https://github.com/hyperfiddle/fulcro-electric-template and https://github.com/hyperfiddle/fulcro-electric-template/blob/master/src/main/app/server_components/http_server.clj adapter examples • bugfixes

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pez16:08:40

Thanks for providing! And thanks for the stellar support level you attach to it! 🙏 ❤️

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Panel01:08:21

Where is the fulcro example ?

Dustin Getz13:08:14

@U01SBSXRRH6 added link to announcement, thx

Kathleen Davis22:08:39

Hi folks! Please consider putting your name in the hat for the upcoming board election. More information https://www.clojuriststogether.org/news/2023-board-nominations-and-our-annual-meeting/

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