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The channels purpose is > If you’re looking to hire, or be hired, then this is the place


Is there a place to post your interest in being hired, if this channel isn't the right place?


I’d rather a separate channel be created for that. #jobseekers or something. When I see a notification that there’s activity here, I want it to be a job posting, not someone looking for work. I’m guessing most people who are looking to hire will just post that they are with a job description rather than scroll back through the history—which is severely limited anyway—just to see if people are looking to be hired. But that’s just my take on it.


Of course, I’m being a bit hypocritical here. This conversation should be taking place in #jobs-discuss. Heh.


I'm going to go on the record to say that this idea is silly. This is a chat room, not a jobs board. Talking about jobs in a jobs chat room should be in-bounds. This channel does not get enough traffic to warrant artificially segmenting it every time a new jobs-related-but-not-actually-a-job post is made. There is also not enough traffic so as to make filtering for job postings difficult for readers.


It's as though #clojure only allowed s expressions, and to talk about them you had to go to #clojure-discuss, but what actually results is that a significant portion of posts end up being "sexprs only, please take it to #clojure-discuss"


The "-discuss" part is implied by this being a chat room, you see


Well, that’s the beauty of it: everyone’s allowed their own opinion. I wouldn’t go so far as to call someone else’s idea ‘silly’ but that’s just me. I also think it’s not really worth arguing over. So ¯\(ツ)


You're enforcing it all the time, aka arguing that only job opportunities should be posted here. At those times, you do not present it as just your opinion, you tell people to take it elsewhere.


As I pointed out earlier, I was going off what the topic displays: ‘Job offers only. Discuss at #jobs-discuss!' And then I presented my opinion as to why I agree with it.


Attempting to enforce what the topic says is a losing battle. It subverts peoples' expectations for a chat room, and because of that, there will always be people posting jobs-related content here.


Making a fourth (!) jobs channel is not going to change that.


As I wrote above, it’s not worth arguing about. But if you want to dig in your heels and argue anyway, by all means, have fun with it.


Does that mean you'll stop enforcing this?


I’m not enforcing anything. That’s your language.


Telling people that their posts don't belong here is enforcing something.


I guess we’re just going to have to see what I’m going to do next. It’ll be an adventure! [tents fingers, chuckles menacingly]


hahahaha, alright, I guess we wait


My two cents, @akiva has just been trying to be helpful and keep the channel on track given its currently listed topic - nothing wrong with that. We are all friends here :)


My two cents too, for what they are worth: I think @bhagany has some really valid points, and personally I like more a not-so-chatty-but-active-channel (like this is lately) than a dead channel, so I see no reason to complain :)