using Hoplon and/or javelin in Nbb scripts in Node.js context (cmd line, repl)?

Use in Scittle web page as drop in without cljs pre-compile (also allowing runtime eval of hoplon code, for userland extension)?

Embedding hoplon in custom sci runtime.

The implication of the SCI config in sci.configs for hoplon is that SCI-based projects could potentially add Hoplon without any further configuration. This is just one such example: https://babashka.org/sci.configs/?gist=e83da19df3d2739861334171779f79d5 Anyone can make their own projects with SCI. If hoplon/javelin will be added to nbb/scittle is based on frequent requests, I'm not usually adding anything without getting requests for those since I can't possible add the whole CLJS ecosystem This is why I made a plugin system for scittle such that you can make your own version of scittle with your favorite libraries mixed in. This is a demo with datascript which isn't in the normal scittle distribution https://github.com/babashka/scittle/tree/main/plugins/demo Hoplon users can make their own scittle + hoplon this way

👍 Thanks for clarifying, and for this work. Hoplon on was my first Web framework, and it’s cool to see it getting more care recently!

@U09D96P9B Are you still using it? Or what are you currently using? I’ve been all-in with reagent and re-frame, but I’m keeping an eye on hoplon as a possibility for an upcoming project.

I haven’t been using it actively. I have it going on a side project I want to update soon. For a while there was some build anxiety, but that’s being resolved now by @U05094X3J . I’ve mostly been doing backend work, and never went down the React/Reagent rabbit hole. I currently want to continue avoiding the reported complexity of React ecosystem, though it does seem to be the most supported path. I have a new project with Biff that I’m trying out. Biff uses HTMX, but can swap in cljs as needed, so I may migrate to that. The Dumdom project also has an interesting alternative take, but does not cover reactive state in iteself. I have been fascinted by Kenny Tilton’s work on #matrix , and was re-assured by him of some of Hoplon’s architectural progressiveness when he pointed out the importance of “fine-grained reactivity” (reactive rules on attributes, not just whole components), and that Hoplon supports this. I am also eager to try out Electric as a full-stack reactive ui framework. My previous Hoplon project was client side only.