does anyone know how to test a new cljsjs package?

boot package install?

I know the page says I didn't find an error, but the first link of http://clojurescript.org/guides/quick-start#dependencies is http://clojurescript.org/guides/quick-start#dependencies, unless I'm misunderstanding the point of the link. 🙂 Pretty sure it's meant to point to http://clojurescript.org/reference/dependencies ?

does anyone know where I can find boot-bucket?

i can’t find any reference to that in google

what is it?

@drazisil we can probably drop that warning now - that was just because it was a wiki before and it was hard to prevent people from editing it

@drazisil fixed

well the warning part

Please give a suggestion. I want to use firebase in my cljs-project. so should i use cljsjs-firebase or matchbox or anyother one ?

I just released version 0.4.0 of my form building library: https://clojars.org/com.pupeno/free-form/versions/0.4.0

@jrheard I don't know, but I have a program that references "spew" out of it. I think it might have something to do with AWS

@sivakumargsk I’ve been using firebase + clojurescript for a while and personally I find working with firebase directly to be the best approach. Especially if you’d like to use any of the new stuff. Easiest way to do that is via cljsjs which will just work. cljsjs usually lags a few versions behind the official sdk though

I would like to rewrite part of our platform with Clojurescript (and Regent). My concerns are about how designers would react to hiccup syntax and generally how they feel working on cljs files. Anyone has experience to share?

@agori I think it just depends, I’ve heard a few stories where designers didn’t really have a problem with it

@mrmcc3 Thanks for the information

Our designer does not code, a part from html and css 🙂. But...she is surely bright and has proven to be able to move comfortably in a js file and even Java Server Faces xhtml pages.

@agori it’s also possible to have an html / css only workflow - not sure how easy it is get that with reagent but surely someone must have tried it

@agori might want to ask in #reagent

@dnolen I'll have a look, thanks

hey

@darwin have you done some more exploration in dynamic binding? I have opted to use lexical binding for now in core.async supervision.

don’t know reactJS, want to play with it a bit in a simple SPA, suggestions ? reagent ? om ? something else ?

i like reagent 🙂

doesn’t it assume you know already know react

?

well i might as well learn react too 🙂

@chbm I'm picking up Rum currently, it's fairly accessible

but these various React wrappers each have their own strengths, it depends on your problem set

@chbm a bit old now but useful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRmj3IUkRVk

i don’t think reagent assumes you already know react, i hadn’t used react before

me neither, but at some point I had to dive in to React documentation (which is quite good)

will look into rum too

@chbm: https://lambdaisland.com/ has some good intro material if you decide to go the reagent route

:thumbsup: tkx

has anyone had issues with linguist (github language detection) misclassifying cljs as clj? there's no reason i can see to explain it and i'm quite busy and tired today for a manual override

I looked into this a while back and concluded that it was handling clj, cljs, cljc, cljx etc appropriately https://github.com/github/linguist/blob/d6e0f74c808b6b15d99f33dfcee52a2d19a445d3/lib/linguist/languages.yml#L671-L689

but it calculates the repo tag based on the total number of lines in all files, so often you’ll see cljs projects get misreported as js or css etc. That might happen in batch in case you’re not seeing immediate updates, not sure.

looks like you can do manual overrides per project too https://github.com/github/linguist#troubleshooting

Have anyone had luck playing with @sgrove ’s http://github.com/sgrove/gamma-playground ?

I'm getting a StackOverflowError during compilation from a macro I'm working on. Is there a useful way to log during macro evaluation? I'd like to println to the console to understand what's going on, but I believe that just writes to the .js output (which I never see, because compilation fails).

This seems to be working:

(binding [*out* (java.io.OutputStreamWriter. (java.lang.System/out))]
  (println "Some text"))

@peeja there is cljs.util/debug-prn

Ah, perfect, thanks!

@alexmiller sorry i had to step away and just saw your response (always sooo timely). this is the first cljs repo i've pushed there so i never thought about it before, but i suspect the issue is i only pushed a file and not an entire project. so from that perspective there's really no difference between clj and cljs other than the extension and i assume that explains it, right?

github linguist classifies both clj and cljs files as “Clojure” (there is no “ClojureScript” language type)

this is actually good from the perspective of language rankings like the RedMonk quarterly language ranking as it combines both into a bigger footprint

hmm...that's true

but to be clear, you're saying my assumption was correct? that in my laziness in not wanting to clean up a project file not ready for deployment and just uploading the cljs file and some others that's what did it?

I don’t really understand a) what you are seeing or b) why it is different than what you expect, so can’t answer

oh, actually i just looked up the last time i did a manual override and once you do it once it's super easy even in this exhausted state. to the extent it matters i suppose...

are you seeing it report Clojure, or Javascript, or some third thing?

i'm seeing it report clojure

rather than clojurescript

that is correct

there is no ClojureScript as far as github is concerned

you're saying there is no clojuresript?

(that surprised me too my first time [and still kinda surprises me, but seems expected])

ah ok

idk why i never noticed that before

and you're right, that would really screw up redmonk

aha good point, didn’t see that line

afaik redmonk does not use clojurescript questions on stackoverflow though so it might actually be underreporting that one

well...we do know all those ranking are...

i guess i haven't looked up what redmonk claims to represent. if it's some combination of momentum and industry usage than it is the most accurate

there's that search engine based one that's totally off imo

it has "lisp" listed above every dialect of lisp, for example

"potential future adoption trends"

had to plow through a lot of doublespeak to find that

but if that's their metric.... i have to point out that php is #3

oh yeah, red monk’s are a correlation of github and stackoverflow and are a reasonable approximation of the open source world

tiobe is the search one and is garbage afaict

yes, tiobe seems not even glanced at by humans before it's published

gartner does one that combines public data and private data from surveys at big companies - I think that is maybe the best methodology in theory

assuming sample size is large and varied enough

huh. i would guess that would push clojure much further down

well I mean the best methodology to give you meaningful numbers (maybe not the best spin for Clojure, I don’t know)

I know of a lot of private non-oss Clojure, but there’s a lot of private other stuff too

it depends

"get a job" numbers

I think it’s hard to correlate that with use

maybe that does influence future development in general tho

that does seem particularly meaningful for an open source language in the sense of someone other than you guys putting major resources into tooling and even compilers, forking the language itself, etc.

i think that's been a major step with other languages: some company decides to use it to the point they develop whole ecosystems around it and release them

ugh, time to salvage monday 😴