Can I require a node module from Planck?

@mathpunk: No, but Ramsey Nasser has a Node-based self-hosted CLojureScript REPL that might support that.

@mathpunk Planck runs on javascript core, so no. But if you wait a day or so im putting out a equivalent for node

ha… everything is changing so rapidly. I’ve just started working in a JavaScript shop, but Clojure is the language I know best

I keep being tempted to try and do some work in ClojureScript, but there are many many options for trying to repl up

@mathpunk: See https://twitter.com/ra/status/736258423025717248

whoa

@mfikes: I've been following Ramsey's and your back-and-forth on twitter—does his work mean we can run ClojureScript in browser via browserify, etc.?

@mfikes this is why I asked you about jars in #planck, was pulling my hair out trying to get andare to work

I've ported http://clojure.java.io & reified files, hopefully can unlock cljs for scripting

@fasiha: Ramsey's created a bootstrapped environment atop Node.js. (I doubt it relates to the browser—but I'm speculating.)

So Node sits on top of the usual Clojure/Java-based cljs build environment—I see

@pat: indeed. I had a bit of work to do in order to get Andare running in Replete.

@fasiha: No. Node.js is V8. No Java.

@mfikes: Ok, I misunderstood your statement—"bootstrapped" was the critical word there 🙂

@fasiha you have to do the initial build on the jvm but from the there the js can compile cljs

@mathpunk: usable today: https://www.npmjs.com/package/clojurescript

@nasser, I have high hopes for cljs on top of node.

not necessarily because I want to write cljs on the server, but to interface with the (gigantic) javascript-based tooling ecosystem

@pesterhazy: exactly. a lot of super interesting environments are node-based, too. like electron and tessel

I think there are benefits to using ClojureScript + NodeJS for the backend that often get dismissed

Clojure and ClojureScript are very similar, but they aren't entirely the same and some things only work on one end

Plus ... Java. So avoiding that is pretty nice

I love java, as long as I can write it through Clojure interop.

Yeah I don't have any Java love

lol

@pesterhazy: We’re using ClojureScript with Electron at work, and it’s been terrific using Node with CLJS. The only thing I haven’t figured out is how to use something like reader-conditionals to target either the browser or node. Right now we’re just compiling from a common directory, but would be great to have a reader-conditional like solution. Maybe it already exists!

@nasser I tried (cljs.nodejs/require “some-js-module”) and it did not work for me. Is that my mistake or is that feature not ready?

try js/require

mmm

but i am actively working on the require stuff, so it may be janky

does some-js-module live in node_modules?

yeah, it’s definitely there

i’m trying the js/require

newp

“Cannot find module” and so forth

lame

which module?

ill try and recreate the condition as well as i can

botkit, which is super very a lot new

I’ll try with something more mature just to see

k

i will try botkit

express, no go

and this is from the repl, right?

that’s right — having installed clojurescript from npm globally, using the cljs command to open up the repl

cool

i’ll chedk my version too, i know this is bleeding edge

the repl might be confused about where it lives

and how node modules get looked up

I did note that the repl itself will crash if there is no node_modules directory

oh weird

yeah, it is happy for a second and then dumps out

oh thats new

just saw it

oh i see what that is

ok i will push out a fix in a sec

fixed

the repl crash, that is

not finding modules is trickier

rock

@nasser i’m not a very experience coder but lmk if I can help somehow with diagnosis

will do!

Me too, I'm happy to help or contribute

notes here or issues/PRs on the github page are more than welcome

@wildermuthn: I wish I had a custom reader conditional while developing replumb as well. Unfortunately at the moment there is not clean way to do that...there is a hack using lein (I saw a blog post on that)

@mathpunk: i have a fix in place, specifically tested with botkit, will push out soon!

just pushed out an update that remedies the require bug @mathpunk reported

cljs.spec implemented in ClojureScript master

Happy birthday David

Ah ah really? Happy birthday then! 🍾