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djm05:05:31

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seancorfield05:05:54

How’s the arm? And the rest of you?

djm05:05:18

The arm hurts, the rest of me is fine.

seancorfield05:05:39

I got my second shingles shot today — my arm hurts too! 🙂

djm05:05:53

I was impressed with the skill of the lady who injected me - when I got home I asked my wife to check that she'd actually done it, as I didn't feel a thing!

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seancorfield05:05:10

I def. felt the shingles shot going in… but that dissipated after a few minutes. Now I have a big, hot knot in my left arm though 😐 The Moderna shots didn’t hurt going in.

seancorfield05:05:12

I have to say: I always had terrible problems with shots and blood draws in the UK — it always hurt and left a massive bruise. The nurses etc doing shots and blood draws in the US seem much more skilled — it hardly ever hurts here and only rarely leaves a bruise.

seancorfield05:05:26

(and I have blood drawn every six months for lab work)

djm05:05:22

I've found that it's quite variable, but most do fairly well when taking blood (and I've had a lot of blood tests, though probably fewer than you)

djm05:05:22

I do remember one person who was particularly bad, after telling me that she didn't like hurting people. But she had only recently trained to do it (as part of a thing to train people in pharmacies to do it, so that people didn't have to go to hospitals, etc)

seancorfield05:05:52

My problem is that I have “shy” veins, so it takes a skilled phlebotomist to nail them…

seancorfield05:05:11

…the unskilled one sort of have to… dig around for them 😞

mccraigmccraig08:05:58

@U015KH5ENEM i also didn't feel anything when they vaxxed me ... got a sore arm the day after though, so i'm reasonably confident he didn't miss my arm

paulspencerwilliams06:05:54

And yes, I’m 3 days out with my RSS feeds….

djm07:05:08

I have unread articles in my feed reader from 12 months ago

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Luis Thiam-Nye08:05:26

Good Morning™

admarrs09:05:18

Good morning, just joined this channel so wanted to say Hi.

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thomas09:05:01

and please note that there is also #clojure-europe which has a bit more traffic these days.

admarrs09:05:07

@thomas thanks, I'll check it out.

thomas10:05:08

anyone watching Dominic Cummings's statement?

djm10:05:29

No, should we be? 😨

Conor10:05:49

Watching via Ian Dunt's Twitter comments, more fun that way

Jakob Durstberger10:05:32

Reading the guardian feed. Not really surprised by anything he said so far

thomas11:05:30

I had a quick look at the Guardian feed as well. not really surprising really, I agree

dharrigan14:05:06

Crazy stuff coming from what Dominic is saying!

dharrigan14:05:51

I mean, how can Our Man Boris survive if what Dominic is saying is true, and there's no reason to think he's pulling a fast one. He certainly has scores to settle...which he appears to be doing very very well, twisty knife and all that.

thomas14:05:33

it is a soap opera

Aron14:05:42

well said, a distraction

rickmoynihan16:05:06

I’ve only skimmed a few of the remarks, throughout the day but I’ve not really seen much that wasn’t blatantly obvious at the time (even going back to February last year). We witnessed Italy, China and many other countries being brought to a stand still, with health services on their knees. It was nothing short of criminal negligence to think that the UK was in someway different and that strong early action wasn’t necessary. Not to mention the many more well documented accounts of corruption and negligence since then. The country sadly seems to think it’s ok, and that nobody could have predicted this. We’re an island, and could easily have been like New Zealand or Australia, but also with a successful vaccine rollout.

rickmoynihan16:05:59

On the vaccine rollout, I’m not sure how much credit I’d give the government… Az/Oxford, Pfizer/Biontec etc… They’re clearly all super smart people who deserve most of the credit. All the government needed to do is realise vaccines are the only good way out of this, then step back and let the professionals (and NHS 👏 etc who are experienced with vaccine programmes) get on with it. I’m surely naive but it seems to me all the government needed to do is keep signing the cheques, which I’m very glad they did; but wouldn’t anyone have done that?!?!

Jakob Durstberger16:05:18

Yeah, I think the vaccine rollout went so well because the NHS was/is handling it

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