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yogidevbear07:02:19

Morning 🙂

seancorfield07:02:27

How's things going over there?

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guy08:02:17

morning 👋

zyxmn08:02:31

You guys wake up so early

zyxmn08:02:39

Good morning !

thomas09:02:16

my excuse is that I am in a different time zone @zyxmndaleyjes (and I am not even that early most of the time)

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jasonbell09:02:25

@otfrom Don’t flatter yourself buttercup, I lost a pint of blood from the ear bleeding and now can only see in black and white, thanks for that.

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zyxmn09:02:02

Do people prefer day time coding , nighttime coding or it doesn't matter . I am a daytime coder myself .

thomas09:02:24

work is daytime coding... spare time projects are nighttime coding (usually)

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zyxmn10:02:28

when do you get the time to sleep and do you get 8 hours?

mccraigmccraig09:02:39

@zyxmndaleyjes you can code in the daytime with all those people asking you stuff ?

zyxmn10:02:58

Not really but I am too tired to work at night. I work from home sometimes or tell people not disturb me

mccraigmccraig10:02:37

i work from home most of the time, as do all our devs - for exactly this reason. these days though i get a lot of customer-related interruptions which i can't ignore

zyxmn12:02:26

So does that mean you have to work longer hours then?

zyxmn12:02:27

or do you just code less.

mccraigmccraig13:02:43

i work pretty long hours atm, although we're working on delegating to fix that. i also code a lot less than i used to - curse of the cto

Conor09:02:54

The people in the office would be surprised if I showed up in the night, also I'd be asleep

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alexlynham09:02:15

I think I probably do my best work at odd hours

mccraigmccraig10:02:47

i'm a bit conflicted about it - i probably do my best work mid-afternoon to evening if i'm not interrupted - but that's a pretty unlikely if these days, and the lack of interruptions at odd hours makes for a massive effectiveness boost

zyxmn10:02:00

I just don't seem to have energy to code after my day job. Also I have strong affinity to getting at least 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep 😆 . How do you guys do it!

3Jane10:02:33

...before the day job

3Jane10:02:51

if you reliably fall asleep at 22, you can wake up at 6

3Jane10:02:11

that leaves you with no social life, explaining how devs end up being massive shut-ins 😄

3Jane10:02:08

honestly, I strongly suspect that people over the pond regularly use stimulants

zyxmn10:02:15

Trying to have a balanced life is so hard!

alexlynham11:02:37

I find that there's a period where I have to force it (up until 10pm say) and then after then I get a second wind

alexlynham11:02:44

but it is burning the candle at both ends

alexlynham11:02:55

and I can't do it for months on end like I could when I was 25

zyxmn12:02:37

Yea, I don't mind working long hours if that means finishing a project and then going brain dead for weeks, till you get your mojo back. I wish I could get a second wind but that never happens for me , I just crash 😅 .

thomas10:02:13

I only manage to spare time project when I am feeling very motivated to do something... this January I made good progress on my MQTT stuff... but I haven't touched it for 2 or 3 weeks as I am a bit stuck at the moment.

zyxmn10:02:41

Woo, clojure meets Internet of things ? What are you creating if you don't mind me asking 😛

thomas10:02:48

an MQTT client and broker...

thomas10:02:55

very experimental though

thomas10:02:42

have a look at last years Dutch Clojure Days video's, I did a lightning talk there about it

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zyxmn10:02:03

you have clients that have enough memory to run java ?

thomas10:02:55

no... I wrote the client more for testing purposes.... I use spec to generate the packages for me..

thomas10:02:44

I don't have an actual use for this... just more to play with something

zyxmn10:02:54

cool . last time I used MQTT was on an arduino/ESP8266

mccraigmccraig10:02:51

my sleep requirement dropped in the last couple of years - i often wake up after 6hrs and pretty much always before 7hrs

3Jane10:02:18

@otfrom (picking up on yesterday’s thread) … so that’s what happened to @thomas !

3Jane10:02:09

his singing

3Jane10:02:16

HIS SINGING

thomas10:02:38

I think I missed yesterdays thread about singing....

otfrom10:02:09

@lady3janepl is this mashing up the bad van Gogh jokes with yesterday's ear bleeding jokes? If so, then I bow to your superior skills. I love jokes like that. 🙂

thomas10:02:34

aah ok... I think I am slowly getting it.

3Jane10:02:44

yeah! …I have a weird memory, it blips connections of threads past ^_^'

otfrom10:02:04

I'm not sure my singing is bad enough to make people's ears fall off, but I should find out for science

jasonbell10:02:16

<<I’m not sure my singing is bad enough to make>> From bitter experience in car journeys, it is.

3Jane11:02:02

For the next ClojureX, we’re going to buy you a custom-made sewing kit

jasonbell11:02:20

Bring scissors @lady3janepl I’ll perform William Burroughs like cutups on my slides to see if my talk makes more sense.

rickmoynihan13:02:07

The web IDE thing really scares me as a trend - but there’s no denying the new kinds of interactions it enables!

practicalli-johnny20:02:19

A stuffed big blue monster is the only form of Brexit I want. Love this campaign, I may go back to Amsterdam again

3Jane13:02:18

cookie monster, hey

3Jane13:02:09

Poked around to find out what kind of “organisation” Britain’s Future is. Doesn’t seem to be registered as a company, or a charity, and they don’t provide any details or reg numbers on the website. But they do take Paypal donations. (How did Paypal not block them yet, when so many actual sellers or individuals taking donations get their accounts blocked?)

jasonbell13:02:43

Airbus will clear off pretty quick once the last A380's are made in 2021. Just a prediction.

guy14:02:19

👋 hey folks

guy14:02:24

Got a sanity check

guy14:02:46

or in clojure the same as short circuit when you find the first true/truthy

guy14:02:12

(or 1 2 nil) Would return 1 right

guy14:02:42

So in this case below, (or (= 1 1) (= 1 2) (= 3 3)) Would the form (= 1 1) be evaluated then return. Or would all the forms (= 1 1) (= 1 2) (= 3 3) then the result of (= 1 1) be returned?

guy14:02:45

if that makes sense?

bronsa14:02:42

just the first one

bronsa14:02:46

that's what short circuiting means :)

bronsa14:02:59

it's easy to test though

bronsa15:02:13

user=> (or (= 1 1) (println "here"))
true

bronsa15:02:20

user=> (or (= 1 2) (println "here"))
here
nil

guy15:02:48

nice thanks very much :thumbsup:

guy15:02:55

I thought it was something like that

guy15:02:07

I was getting stuck with ->some

guy15:02:22

anyways haha! thanks 😄

thomas15:02:20

and if I remember correctly or is implemented as a macro... have a look at the source @guy

dominicm16:02:25

@jasonbell from what I know, airbus are aggressively hiring.

jasonbell16:02:45

yeah i know but you can never know in that industry

thomas16:02:32

but for what are they hiring and where? and for temp jobs or permies?

dominicm16:02:38

junior engineers I think. My girlfriend is in physics, and there's a lot of opportunities.

dominicm16:02:51

A friend from school works for them too.