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parinfer 2017-10-22
shaunlebron 2017-10-22T03:13:48.000024Z
set the channel topic: Parinfer 3.10.0 - lisp editing for humans - (support my work here: https://www.patreon.com/shaunlebron)
Chris Oakman 2017-10-22T14:28:05.000064Z
That thread is emblematic of newcomers to Lisp. That person posts a reasonable experience report about how parenthesis were a problem for him getting started. Is subsequently downvoted and receives dozens of replies to "just use emacs".
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Chris Oakman 2017-10-22T14:29:15.000061Z
Also "just use the REPL more". So unhelpful and completely misses the point of his query / problem.
shaunlebron 2017-10-22T23:24:40.000017Z
ive been hearing the "clojure has less parens than other langs" response lately. thats not really working for people
shaunlebron 2017-10-22T23:27:56.000101Z
its a fact, but perception is a real thing as well
shaunlebron 2017-10-22T23:29:21.000039Z
for example, no game designer would blame a perception problem on the player. it's the designer's job to make sure perception aligns appropriately
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shaunlebron 2017-10-22T23:30:33.000080Z
that's how i feel when people tell newcomers of lisp to ignore what they see because theyre just not seeing it right