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Alex Miller (Clojure team)01:01:15

there are some cases where you might use Clojure to generate the code in a different language that needs some of those above :) (certainly I've seen people do that)

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Michael Nardell02:01:28

Slowly approaching the point in learning Clojure where, in the words of David Bowie "You know you know you know you know"

pavlosmelissinos11:01:12

Extremely off-topic but I'm in the market for a new mouse, any recommendations? I've been struggling a bit with online reviews: they seem to be skewed in favor of gamers (good for them, I guess!). Here are my requirements: • reliable and comfortable/ergonomic • gaming or not, I don't care • average size or bigger (I can't stand the small ones) • weight is not an issue (within reason) • I'm mostly a palm gripper with some fingertip grip thrown in (rarely) but I can adjust if need be • either right-hand or ambidextrous is fine • <60€ (but I can go beyond that for exceptional cases) • easy to clean edit: Not a Mac user! (I need Linux compatibility)

raspasov11:01:59

I used to use this for many years (now just use the macbook trackpad after they made it bigger, it works well enough for me) https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Gaming-Mouse-Programmable/dp/B082G5SPR5/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=Deathadder&amp;qid=1611832522&amp;s=electronics&amp;sr=1-1

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raspasov11:01:17

(no gaming, just used it for work)

borkdude11:01:06

I use the Apple mouse. Works for me. I want one which I can use with both hands, not a specific left or right handed one, but if it would be asymmetrical I would have to get a left handed

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slipset11:01:23

Apple mouse

pavlosmelissinos11:01:50

Thank you all! @U04V4KLKC @U04V15CAJ Ah I'm not a Mac user, sorry, I should have led with that... Are your recommendations compatible with other OSes? Linux in particular. @U050KSS8M I've heard that Razer has reliability issues so I'm a bit skeptical 😕

delaguardo11:01:22

Yes, they are compatible

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mpenet11:01:58

I'd suggest a trackball, mx ergo in particular

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mpenet11:01:22

works fine on linux

dharrigan11:01:54

I'm an Arch user, the MX Anywhere 2S works great. Also works great with my mac mini m1.

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orestis12:01:01

Also check out the MX Master by logitech. Built like a brick and very comfortable.

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theonlysinjin13:01:55

It’s a little harder on linux, but I love the extra buttons on the mouse and bind them to window management. Like maximise / minimise / move to next desktop. I use BetterTouchTool on Mac, but a little more manual on linux

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dharrigan13:01:01

I've mapped some of the buttons on my MX using SteerMouse on my mac. That works well too 🙂 On Linux I use xbindkeys to remap buttons 🙂

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caumond13:01:05

@U04V4KLKC, I have a magic mouse right now. Between magic mouse and your magic trackpad, I'm not sure to see which one better suit in which situation?

delaguardo14:01:10

This is personal but magic mouse was not design for my palm) too sharp edges. Also I'm using track pad in combination with hhkb keyboard and I can put track pad right in front of me not on the left side

kamilwaheed15:01:55

I can back Logitech MX Master mice. I have MX Master 3 and it’s an absolute joy to use after having used the Magic Mouse for 5+ years. I won’t go back

jaide16:01:56

Been using a Logitech MX Ergo Plus for the past year-ish. It’s been my favorite mouse to date, one note is that it is a trackball so not ideal for gaming.

noisesmith16:01:35

I don't game at all, and use a more traditional trackball (top mounted ball) between the sides of a split keyboard. this lets me use the track ball with either hand, and means I never have to switch between mouse grip and keyboard - every mouse movement is a simple swipe. very similar to using a track pad actually.

chepprey17:01:10

Linux user here. Recently got a Logitech M-U0007 corded mouse. Cheap, works perfectly. Nice resolution sensor and smooth mouse wheel, eliminated all my jittering problems from my 2004 Dell mouse:laughing: Worked 100% out of the box, even the 2 specialty side buttons (browser back/forward). Right hand grip, sized for average adult hand.

lread18:01:34

I’m personally not a fan of the Apple magic mouse, I found myself making too many accidental clicks and swipes and gestures. I switched to a Logitech MX Master and find it suits me much better.

David Pham18:01:08

MX Master and MX Revolution for many years. I would totally recommend them.

Max19:01:15

I used https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical/dp/B00BIFNTMC for years. Pros: very cheap, vertical grip is easier on my wrist RSI, bluetooth USB dongle never unpairs, a few extra buttons that you can map to different functions if you use bettertouchtool or usb overdrive or w/e. Currently I’m just using the built-in trackpad on my mac laptop with an exernal keyboard attached, and I’ve found that the additional friction to use the mouse helps me rely on the keyboard more, which ends up being even better for my RSI.

pithyless20:01:36

@UEQPKG7HQ My daily driver is the Microsoft Sculpt mouse. It was bundled with my Sculpt keyboard and sounds like it may tick a lot of your requirements.

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jcburley19:02:20

If a trackball is an option at all, consider a LARGE one; I’ve used these for seemingly decades, including at work (Microsoft and later Bloomberg LP) where I had to get “permission”, and absolutely love them: https://store.kensington.com/products/kensington-expert-trackball-mouse-k64325?variant=31422431002673&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiAvP6ABhCjARIsAH37rbRV3v2CASuh98iXUwihUKr_ZaVuOob2F_zhyJD9DjkrD4_PFaJHhQsaAvPGEALw_wcB

jaide20:02:33

I think I had one of those! It was really nice.

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dharrigan11:01:12

I've been using a "MX Anywhere 2S" for quite a while. I love it so much, I have several, so I don't have to go hunting for one when on the move...

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vemv13:01:33

anyone has a Clojurian friend at Puppetlabs? I have a question related to their offering (not job related)

sova-soars-the-sora22:01:37

i did meet a couple cool cats from puppet at a clojure conj...

solf00:01:40

> Historically, to pay your monthly bills in Brazil, you had to go to a bank branch and wait in line — often outside in the heat — until it was your turn. The lines wrapped around the block like that of an Apple Store upon the release of the latest iPhone. Being from Peru, this resonates with me 😕