Clojurians Log v2

Lovely photo, lovely city. May buildings like these stand for 100s and 100s of years yet!

Another nice one:

So good! Love the tower and the stream 🙂

I recognize that church! and more importantly the bars all around it!

I tried learning clojure dart with gemini 2.0, it wasn't fantastic, but it was oddly motivating having someone being wrong around me so often. So it kept my focus far better than just trying to slog through things I don't like much. Most of them are pretty ok for htmx/css though I think (since I'm not a frontender I don't know if they're good practices). It'd probably function pretty well.

I used #eca and got help from people in #ai-assisted-coding if you want to ask in other channels.

I got a decent design asking Figma's agent. Mentioned the colors I wanted, and some sample copy. It did stick React into everything (Components!), but replaced React with HTML and tailwind when prompted.

One way: Let v0, lovable or bolt create the app, download the code, start Claude Code and tell it to convert it to html and css only. Using Claude Code Chrome extension it should be able to verify the changes.

I used LLMs this way for two small apps where I just wanted an okay UI design. I didn't convert to html/css only though, it was from nextjs to tanstack-start

Good morning 😊 make the most of it!

lol, speaking of Klarna https://mlq.ai/news/klarna-ceo-admits-aggressive-ai-job-cuts-went-too-far-starts-hiring-again-after-us-ipo/ (thanks @rahul080327 for the link)

Klarna went all BNPL on AI

I find this endlessly fascinating Having watched too many "day in the life of" tiktoks shared on social media the point regarding inefficiency strikes home I'm also curious how this breaks down differently between states in the US and even origin. For example, do people of Dutch extraction in the US share the same sensibilities or were these paves over by American culture.

I think as soon as you live in the US, this culture will evaporate rather quickly

I don't know but I find it hard to imagine hardcore New England WASPs engaging innhustle culture. I could be way off base

As a Brit, it was a big shock when I moved to California -- and the Brits don't even have the same work/life balance mindset that the Dutch have.

How much of this is downwind from NY being a financial center and SV startup culture?

Silicon Valley culture, esp. in startups, is incredibly toxic in that regard. Tech companies have all sorts of concierge services on-site, including a subsidized cafeteria, so you have no reason to leave the building during the day -- and people who leave at 5 pm are frowned at...

I've heard people say on Twitter: this is why Europe doesn't have any great tech startups (or relatively few) :P

When I was at Macromedia, and a product team was nearing a launch date, I often got calls from product management at weekends or late in the evening, expecting me to drop everything, jump on my laptop, and solve some "urgent" problem that couldn't wait until Monday apparently. 😞

Where I work now is the first US company that actually values work/life balance -- although it went through a rough patch regarding that, back in 2012, when we relaunched the platform and had capacity problems for a few months.

They could be right regarding startups (there are other causes like regulation and labor laws) but a counterpoint is that gdp is not the be all and end all of a country. Before I had kids I didn't mind the surrounding services that much, I enjoy what I do, I like my colleagues, sure, I'll stay for dinner. With a family it's different.

doing things for fun is one thing, through obligation is another

Even that fun creates a social pressure dynamic. Imagine a team where most stay in late on Monday. There is a feeling of missing out if you go out early, and some actual missing out by virtue of not being there. Same for a smoking team for a non smoker 🙃

no doubt and I know cos I've partaken. But I've never had a manager say (either to me or others) that it was bad form not to partake.

I’ve heard people say on Twitter: this is why Europe doesn’t have any great tech startups (or relatively few) 😛

I actually meant tech giants, not startups. Like Google, Amazon, Facebook, Apple

There hustle culture seems even less relevant 😄 But twitter tech bros gonna twitter tech bro. Some months ago a prominent European tech hustler was in the US for the first time and his take on what he learned was something like “In Europe no one wants to be a millionaire because we don’t have nice things to buy” 🤷

> this is why Europe doesn't have any great tech startups (or relatively few) Hmm I don't believe that. You find more than enough innovative and hard-working people in Europe. Financial system, market size, and university ecosystem are much more significant factor IMO.

Later on I clarified myself: I meant tech giants

Hey we have JetBrains and Spotify

yeah Spotify came to my mind. Is JetBrains really that big of a company, I mean, only developers have heard of that probably?

A lot of those Big Tech companies try pretty hard to maintain "startup culture" in teams, even as they grow way beyond the need to work more like an "enterprise". When I was at Adobe, they specifically had "entrepreneur-in-residence" teams that were very "startup"-like to try to evoke that move fast / break stuff / be disruptive mindset.

Klarna is a non-US big company perhaps: this company is seducing Dutch teenagers to get into debt by impulse buys

ok, we have ASML in the Netherlands which is pretty big

but it's not a consumer facing company which is what most people think of probably first

Philips is big

They could've been much much bigger if the didn't decide to sell ASML

Do they make videos of people crunching up crisp packets? Probably sensible to sell it

lol no, they make machines that create chips... close enough I guess.

lol I know

the sound of crunching chips: you could be on to something

It's very consumer friendly

ASML is just one of the most important companies in the modern technological world

No biggie