Clojurians Log v2

21+💯

I’d be fine with a 21 minimum. How much work would a fork be?

the main issue would be figuring out their whole bazel build related stuff. code wise so far I have only seen one trivial change that would be easily undone. long term this would likely become unsustainable though, but could maybe be done for the next release.

maybe I’d try with bumping to 21 and see how many complaints you get. Then you can still consider a fork later?

yeah probably. probably won't be any more painful than 8 -> 11 was. most people were fine, some quit 😛

right, I’d support a push towards 21 and maybe core async’s upcoming virtual threads support will also help with it

yeah 21 baseline would be great I guess. many other things I'd move to vthreads in shadow 😛

and maintaining a closure fork sounds like a ton of work that’s not very fun

yeah, although I've been thinking about it for a while and ripping out all the useless stuff we don't use anyways 😛 and of course adding some missing stuff or making inaccessible stuff accessible 😛

but them fixing the private stuff is a major win 🙂

21+ 👍

Note: shadow-cljs isn't required for "production" machines In my company, prod still runs 17 (and we don't control it. It is another team) But the CI/CD can run 21 for cljs builds. So it is not a blocker

I had to do the annoying setup in builds for shadow to use 11+ while other JVM build step stuff (for CLJ) used 8 already. So it was doable at least. 21 wouldn’t be any harder there.