Clojurians Log v2

Astronvim community has a Clojure pack https://practical.li/neovim/configuration/astronvim/

It's been working out fine for me.

Any suggestions?

Regarding nvim

in response to your edit: I'd be happy to share my config/plugins I use if that'd be helpful

That would be awesome!

I don't think there's any web-dev specific stuff you need, just regular clojure plugins just a sec

I guess so

Also I don't think I'm there yet concerning proficiency. I always felt like I was overthinking simple actions and not understanding how some actions work and why some actions behave the way they do

But I think that's mostly about being proficient at vim

Maybe also some tips there?

And is there an active vim/nvim community you can suggest?

here it is: https://gist.github.com/jacobobryant/d40fece1da5e54681879c6df4e17af35 list of plugins are at the top; those are the main things I'd look at. They're installed with https://github.com/junegunn/vim-plug. Are you thinking about proficiency with vim in general or proficiency with vim + clojure specifically? I'm not part of any vim/nvim communities (other than this channel, heh), but I assume there's probably an active subreddit?

> Are you thinking about proficiency with vim in general or proficiency with vim + clojure specifically? At that point, I was thinking about vim in general, but I think both are high-priority I'm guessing

Sounds good--I remember starting out with https://superuser.com/questions/246487/how-to-use-vimtutor and finding it helpful. Looks like you can run nvim +Tutor from the terminal to start it. I think that'd be a good way to build your muscle memory with vim first. Once you feel more comfortable with vim in general, then I'd take a look at the vim-sexp and vim-sexp-mapping-for-regular-people plugins and learn how to use some of the keybindings; just enough so editing clojure doesn't feel painful. Then the last big piece is conjure--learning to use vim to interact with the repl. And then after that there's all the fiddling/piecing together all the remaining plugins so you have a decent IDE-like experience 😉 . I'd definitely take it a step at a time; better to nail fundamentals before moving on. Also, if you mainly just want to get a working clojure editor/IDE set up and aren't necessarily/specifically interested in vim, I think Cursive is worth checking out. Maybe you'll have better luck with it than VS code?

(re: my last paragraph: I might've misunderstood your original comment; I thought you meant you couldn't get the bells and whistles going with VS Code, but on second read I'm pretty sure you just meant with AstroNvim)

though cursive (and vs code) do also have vim plugins, so that might also be worth checking out: you can get used to basic editing with vim first and then decide later if you want to jump in all the way. (fwiw I do prefer "real" vim/nvim myself over plugins--window/buffer management is one reason)

@robbie.huffman I have some questions: • Why tmux? Isn't a regular terminal enough? • What do you mean by shadow-cljs projects? And as opposed to what?

Regarding tmux: I like having one program that work the same on desktop and on remote sessions. And is easy to set up no matter which computer I'm working from. I like the slimux plugin which lets me use a lot of languages "almost like a repl". Being able to reattach sessions is very nice. I know there are other ways to work on ClojureScript, like figwheel. But I also find it nice that Conjure works the same on Clojure and babashka projects.

@robbie.huffman Regarding Neovim: • What plugins do you use to make your Clojure development experience smoother with nvim? • The basis of the previous question: have you ever felt the urge to switch to more mouse-based editors like VSCode because editing Clojure with neovim was a pain in the butt? Edit: added "smoother"

When I go back to using the mouse a lot, it just hurts my elbow.

Here is my neovim plugin list:

"editing
Plug 'tpope/vim-surround'
Plug 'tmsvg/pear-tree'
Plug 'ervandew/supertab'
Plug 'echasnovski/mini.nvim'
Plug 'tpope/vim-commentary'
Plug 'neovim/nvim-lspconfig'
Plug 'dcampos/nvim-snippy'
Plug 'w0rp/ale'

"ALE
let g:ale_linters = {'clojure': ['clj-kondo']}

"Tmux 
Plug 'christoomey/vim-tmux-navigator'

"Clojure
Plug 'Olical/conjure'

Love how minimal your setup is

I've been very happy with Neovim + Conjure + tmux while working on shadow-cljs projects.