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2016-06-21
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robert-stuttaford12:06:49

TIL i'm way out of my depth in here 🙂

borkdude12:06:57

@robert-stuttaford: welcome to share something from your depth 😉

borkdude12:06:26

btw I'm currently having a caffeine withdrawal, so not very spiritual...

robert-stuttaford12:06:01

why the caffeine reduction? sending you strength 🙂

borkdude12:06:50

@robert-stuttaford: I do this to myself every so often it seems.

borkdude12:06:47

@robert-stuttaford: I just want to be able to function normally without coffee. This guy inspired me to try it again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kXq8na6Q9w

robert-stuttaford12:06:48

caffeine holiday? me too

robert-stuttaford12:06:10

how much do you usually drink?

borkdude12:06:21

@robert-stuttaford: 2 cups + 3 cups of black tea

robert-stuttaford12:06:36

yeah. that's quite a lot for a day

robert-stuttaford12:06:05

you're definitely well into adenosine resistance

borkdude12:06:18

I'm now down to 1 cup + 3 cups of green tea

borkdude12:06:55

last time I tried to quit completely, but there's always this social aspect to it

borkdude12:06:08

so now I'm trying to limit to 1 cup, so I don't have to say goodbye to coffee definitely

robert-stuttaford12:06:36

best, i think, is if you can make it a random cup, rather than a ritualised one

borkdude12:06:50

@robert-stuttaford: I'm very much a habit person

robert-stuttaford12:06:54

so that your body gets used to coping with out it

borkdude12:06:11

@robert-stuttaford: yes, I want to be able to go without some days

borkdude12:06:16

so let's say it's optional

borkdude12:06:55

the benefit of cutting down is that the one cup I do have feels so amazing 😛

robert-stuttaford12:06:48

yes, i know what you mean

robert-stuttaford12:06:03

i'm on one GOOD cup of coffee a day, and then normal tea 1-2 times randomly after that

robert-stuttaford12:06:15

and that first cup is very much a ritual

borkdude13:06:54

@robert-stuttaford: btw I'll have some free time in the coming two months and I was planning to read up on that 'fixed' vs 'growth' mindset you talked about on Twitter

robert-stuttaford13:06:54

it's really quite simple, but fundamental. in http://www.insidequest.com/episode/tom-bilyeu/, Tom explains really nicely why this is so

borkdude13:06:06

@robert-stuttaford: I love simple but fundamental stuff

borkdude13:06:00

that's why I'm into zen meditation now also. it's very basic, yet profound

robert-stuttaford13:06:51

it's fascinating how your world changes when you take a small mental step back from the senses and realise that there's so much happening in your head, beneath notice

robert-stuttaford13:06:03

and you start to notice it, and see just how much it drives you

robert-stuttaford13:06:16

and then, with practice, you get to start deciding, or, at least, start to reprogram that stuff

borkdude13:06:32

@robert-stuttaford: it's hard but worth it

robert-stuttaford13:06:08

mega hard. but totally worth it. and, all that practice is directly applicable to everything else in your life!

borkdude13:06:39

yes, fundamental

tjg13:06:00

I'm pretty sure I wrote that very badly and unclearly. 🙂

zcaudate16:06:09

@tjg: I like Battlestar Galactica… it follows a very vedic point of view where the world is destroyed and rebuilt in cycles

zcaudate16:06:54

the opening theme song is the gayatri mantra

zcaudate16:06:41

which most indians (and western hippies) know by heart

zcaudate16:06:09

the matrix was another deeply influenced by indian philosophy as was cloud atlas

zcaudate16:06:41

lana was a philosophy major

zcaudate16:06:10

anyways… I would like to think that the world is moving towards this star trek utopia but everyone I talk to loves mad max

zcaudate16:06:31

… so I don’t know really

zcaudate16:06:34

maybe it’s going to be a gasp two tier society with the haves and have nots

zcaudate16:06:19

kinda like the whole vision created by metropolis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(1927_film)

zcaudate16:06:06

all I can say is that as clojurists… we’ll be fine 😃

zcaudate16:06:13

because the world is heading towards a future where human attention is becoming the most valuable commodity on the planet

zcaudate16:06:49

and so as programmers, we are in a very privileged position to be part of that future

zcaudate16:06:06

as its creators

zcaudate16:06:11

@robert-stuttaford: have you tried apple juice with lemon?

zcaudate16:06:43

if you like a hot drink… lemon, honey and ginger is also nice.

zcaudate16:06:57

some people are put off by the sugar so you can put less of the apple/honey

zcaudate16:06:52

If I feel like I’m in a meeting and I’m pinching myself to stay awake because of boredom, this works better than coffee

robert-stuttaford17:06:10

i haven't, but i will, thank you 🙂