@nathanmarz i only found out the name for it myself a few months ago. i've known i was different for about 20 years but always assumed it was just me as nobody else ever seemed able to relate

it turns out something like 2% of the population are somewhere on the spectrum in terms of low-no visualisation

i have a little, enough to confuse the issue but not enough to be useful ... some people have none at all

@sandbags crazy stuff, got me thinking a lot about how people can experience life differently

fyi, someone on twitter pointed me to this facebook group for people with aphantasia https://www.facebook.com/groups/204603509580186/?fref=mentions

I am impressed you manage to do your job as a programmer/engineer with aphantasia. Visualisation is such an important thing for me

I cannot phantom how I would be able to work with abstract concepts without an ability to visualise them in one way or another

I've never found it a problem with abstract concepts, perhaps more so with the details in fact!

To me it looks like some “specter exercises” would be better suited for learning specter first, and the visualisation part could come in later for more advanced use-cases, when there is lots of data/nested keywords etc. At work we have dev helpers to trim or pprint data structures to files and use diff (or meld) to compare them since it’s no use printing them in Emacs (too big). But I did not need all that to learn how to manipulate data in Clojure. For learning Clojure I used simple examples, easy exercises (I remember http://clojurekoans.com/ being helpful for Clojure). I have yet to play with https://github.com/gdeer81/specter-koans by the way. In the meantime my use of specter is fairly limited.

yea, specter is naturally suited for learning via a series of progressively more difficult use cases

Sorry I dropped the ball on writing the specter-koans. I get distracted easily