How do people run clojure.test tests that need the context of a real browser? The guide mentions Karma plus a couple of plugins... is that still the recommended approach? In my case I'd probably use the karma playwright launcher but I was wondering about the approach in general.

there's some interesting work happening with kaocha-cljs2, but I don't think it's fully ready to go yet.

I saw that but it didn't inspire a lot of confidence - but it would be nice to also run tests from the REPL. Not sure how that works, I need to setup of PoC...

we've been using the same karma setup for a couple years now. work well

there's also the in-browser test runner when developing locally

https://shadow-cljs.github.io/docs/UsersGuide.html#target-browser-test

it uses https://github.com/Olical/cljs-test-runner to show your tests in the browser

you can also, in your running app, evaluate a ns with tests in it and then call cljs.test/run-tests

if you'd like the REPL

it doesn't use that at all?

I thought shadow-cljs did include that by default? maybe I'm totally misremembering lol

maybe you mean https://github.com/bhauman/cljs-test-display?

that is what I'm thinking of, yep