in which city?

CoffeeScript has not been updated for long time. Only released 2.0 very recently.

and by using CoffeeScript, it first compiles to ES2015+ , and it has to be compiled with Babel for old browsers.

In Shanghai, Caohejing Development Zone

I know CoffeeScript released 2.0 recent, but we have given up using CoffeeScript now 😂

Because of some JavaScript tools have poor support for CoffeeScript

when did you start using coffee

well... teambition gave up coffee too, very recently

I start use coffee from at least 2012……Maybe more earlier, I didn't remember

that's even earlier than teambition..

how many people. why never heard of you

But my current company start use coffee at 2015 I think...

I convince two company to use coffee 😛, include current company

teambition started using CoffeeScript in 2013, switched from Python

But they are all startup company, so you have not heard of them is normal

but it did not contribute back to the original project, only got to switch to ES6 when they found coffee pooly maintained

teambition was a startup too, at least in 2014, only 20+ people

😂 my two company only 10+- people both

I'm current working for Pomotodo/Duohui, I think you didn't heard

never heard

Chinese name?

番茄土豆/多会

never heard..

I have been hesitant to apply for http://ele.me employees 3 years ago, but I heard that they no longer use CoffeeScript, so I gave up

I don't know..

at least sofish does not like CoffeeScript when I was there

in late 2016

are you in WeChat group? maybe we chat in WeChat...

I'm not in WeChat group

😂

200+ members already, although not many Clojure programmers

add me by jiyinyiyong

@bolasblack sorry for the sketchy release quality, just pushed [email protected] which should fix your issues

I compiled your project with the require comments removed

aws-sdk and airtable now work afaict 😛

Cool!

also fixed the cache-root properly

one thing I’m not too sure about is whether or not I should check if a package exists, that seems somewhat limiting

ie. if you (:require ["airtable" :as ...]) the compiler checks whether node_modules/airtable exists

that really is not required and will break if you installed airtable to global or some other parent path

node will happily find it

I might add a :check-packages true|false option so its less strict

I think shadow-cljs needn't check it, because webpack/browserify/(or runtime? user will get an error) will check it ?

yeah, exactly

the only reason it is checking is because CLJS core allows (:require [react ...]) which is a magical symbol that ONLY works if node_modules/react exists

but in case of a string I don’t need to check since I already know that it is a JS dependency

so keep using strings 😉

all the issues you had were due to the check not properly running on some package.json files

I even don't know CLJS core support that 😂

I tried alpha10, it works very well!

phew finally 🙂

Thanks for your work, shadow-cljs is much much much much better than lein-cljsbuild or boot-cljs for me 😉

and we are just getting started

updated the blog post https://code.thheller.com/blog/shadow-cljs/2017/09/15/js-dependencies-going-forward.html

still need to finish some code before I’ll post it to the usual sources

but if you guys have some feedback I’m all ears 🙂

@jiyinyiyong webpack uses uglifyjs to minify things correct?

ah, found it. https://www.npmjs.com/package/uglifyjs-webpack-plugin

yep, https://webpack.js.org/plugins/uglifyjs-webpack-plugin/#usage

do you still prefer a shorter name for shadow-cljs?

not sure, I think I used it too much already to change it

but since it is now able to compile pure JS projects we might need something more generic 😉

updating packages and namespace would be huge work I think

I was suggesting "coleujs" anyway..

yeah I saw .. didn’t like it too much

do I seriously have to replace process.env.NODE_ENV? I thought uglify-js would be able to do that?

not cool

playing with my new Macbook... migrating configs

when I was configuring Webpack, I still have to replace that, during bundling for production

Or maybe a name starts with s, I don't think it's as good as col.. though http://www.southernliving.com/plants/s

not worried about the name too much … more important things to do 😉

well, the name is the most interesting part, actually I don't like the "-" in the name.. we have lein-cljs boot-cljs, as a result shadow-cljs sounds like there's a thing called shadow. 😂

hehe just ran react v16 through my bundler

------ WARNING #1 --------------------------------------------------------------
 File: node_modules/react-dom/cjs/react-dom.development.js:1122:2

 unreachable code
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------ WARNING #2 --------------------------------------------------------------
 File: node_modules/react-dom/cjs/react-dom.development.js:1155:2

 unreachable code
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------ WARNING #3 --------------------------------------------------------------
 File: node_modules/react-dom/cjs/react-dom.development.js:2865:2

 unreachable code
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------ WARNING #4 --------------------------------------------------------------
 File: node_modules/react-dom/cjs/react-dom.development.js:12560:4

 unreachable code
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------ WARNING #5 --------------------------------------------------------------
 File: node_modules/react-dom/cjs/react-dom.development.js:16870:4

 unreachable code
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------ WARNING #6 --------------------------------------------------------------
 File: node_modules/react-dom/cjs/react-dom.development.js:16879:4

 unreachable code
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guess I should tell someone 😉

// Flow needs the return null here, but ESLint complains about it.
  // eslint-disable-next-line no-unreachable

guess they know

flow looks good 😄