@mikethompson Thanks!

Where can I learn about co-effects? In the context of re-frame and otherwise.

https://github.com/Day8/re-frame/blob/master/docs/Coeffects.md

http://tomasp.net/coeffects/ is also great

I found the description as "side-causes" quite illuminating too

I've got a view with two inputs, both of which use on-input

typing in one of them causes the whole area to be re-rendered, and I lose focus. the other one works fine.

When trying to combine re-frame and devcards, it only makes sense to use devcards for reagent components that are the domino 5 of re-frame, is that correct? Or is there something else I can use devcards for in this setup?

The re-frame-template uses defroute inside a function (defn app-routes...). Why was it done that way? It seems unusual to me to def anything inside a function.

defroute is sliiightly misnamed, since it doesn't def any vars in the Clojure sense.

@devurandom if i recall, it was a quirk of using secretary which uses macros to define the routes and the timing mattered

@braden.shepherdson But the secretary readme shows that the route can later be used as a function in that namespace...?

(defroute users-path "/users" []
  (js/console.log "Users path"))
(users-path) ;; => "/users"

@gadfly361 I tried to remove the wrapping function and call defroute in the global context, as well as secretary/set-config! and hook-browser-navigation!. And I ran into the issue that now the :active-panel is not anymore set upon loading the application. I have to call (secretary/dispatch! js/window.location.hash) (roughly, writing that from memory) during the "load" event on js/window to make the application show the right content. Could that be the timing problem you mentioned?

And if secretary is behaving so unreliably, is there something better?

I personally use bide .. I know bidi is also popular and reitit is new one

If I want to dispatch a fetch action when visiting a page, where do I call dispatch? I’m using the reitit router.

I stand corrected; I didn't know you could call a route like a function.

Oh wait I see it

I subscribe to :navigate I think

Err setup a navigate effect

anyone with insight into my problems with a form, above?

Hi guys

If I would make a streaming service to show the updates coming from server to update the re-frame db, how can I make the client subscribe with for example Kafka channel which will have the output of streaming output

@gadfly361 In bide I would then (re-frame/dispatch [:active-panel :foobar]) within a case or cond statement on the route name and query parameters? Do you have an example?

so the should be as simple as possible, ui client "re-frame", Kafka to keep output of streaming, streaming service "which do processing and push to Kafka" how can I make the three parts connected together?

Anyone try this before or have advice on this?

Thanks in advance

@devurandom lein new re-frame foobar +gadfly for an example ... that is a hidden profile and makes no promises to the user, but is uses bide as a router

@urzds yeah, re-frame does not currently play well with devcards. Although i seem to remember that people have found various hacks.

@mikethompson But I can use devcards for the limited use-case of playing with domino 5 in re-frame? Without those defcards (and thus e.g. reagent) ever getting in contact with the actual data that is stored by re-frame?

@abdullahibra I haven’t played with streaming to the browser myself, but I found this, maybe it would be helpful? https://github.com/larrychristensen/messenjer

@jayzawrotny the fetch action would normally be initiated by the logic that knows about the change in page, nt by the page itself (which is just a rendering of current state)

@manutter51 great thanks

@devurandom yes, correct. You can use reagent with devcards