Clojurians Log v2

the previous podcast he did with him is also worth a listen

https://corecursive.com/lisp-in-space-with-ron-garret/

heard it :)

Java "was designed to turn programmers into cogs and wheels, cogs and machines. And in that respect, it’s succeeded spectacularly well"... Yup. I feel that.

Cogs and wheels that eventually can be replaced by AI

Great episode (transcript). Thanks for the link.